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Posted 23 June 2008 - 01:00 PM

i am curious about how these would work.. Is it possible that i could just slap a barrel back into any barrel to get a better paint to barrel match?
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Posted 23 June 2008 - 01:03 PM

Nope. You could get a barrel milled to accept Freak inserts or just buy a Freak barrel kit (only one I can think of with inserts), but you can't just put inserts into any barrel.
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Posted 23 June 2008 - 01:06 PM

would barrel backs help out??
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Posted 23 June 2008 - 01:24 PM

Different sized barrel backs and inserts do the same job...

The Powerlyte Scepter also uses inserts.

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 01:43 PM

BTW, I heard the freak inserts are a bit of a pain to remove. I suggest doing a little research before you purchase anything.
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Posted 23 June 2008 - 01:46 PM

Oh and as for the very first question, no you can't just use a barrel back with any random barrel. The front end of the barrel backs aren't any standard barrel threading, so you have to use specific fronts made for that back (UL backs with UL fronts, Matchstick backs with Matchstick backs, etc. You can't use a UL back with a Matchstick tip, for example - although there may be some exceptions to this). The one exception is the Python kit (google "Python Paintball"), which also uses inserts, although there are only 4 sizes available if I remember correctly. You get to choose the threading of the Python, which will have that threading for both the male and female ends. The exception is the Automag twistlock style, which becomes Autococker thread, and possibly the Phantom - not sure on that one.

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 02:36 PM

Python paintball They make a insert system that you can put on any barrel thats threaded for your marker. There about half the length of a freak insert but i realy dont notice a diffrence between the 2.

Also the kit comes with 4 inserts but you can buy aditional inserts sepratly. The 4 that come with it are most common size ones.

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 04:52 PM

If you have a specific one piece barrel that you love for some reason and would rather just put inserts in it, find a qualified machinist, send them the barrel and let's say a Freak insert (or whatever kind of insert you prefer to use). They should be able to bore the back of your one piece barrel out to accept the inserts. One of my teammates has a J&J one piece that's been bored out to accept Freak inserts. The barrel, one insert, and the work all together only cost him $70. If you want I can ask him where exactly it was that he got it from. It's a fairly good price considering that a J&J runs around $30 and a Freak insert runs around $15. You're only paying $25 for custom, quality work.
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Posted 23 June 2008 - 06:13 PM

View Posteuglow54, on Jun 23 2008, 04:43 PM, said:

BTW, I heard the freak inserts are a bit of a pain to remove. I suggest doing a little research before you purchase anything.

I have a Freak Jr. kit and haven't had any problem removing them.
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Posted 06 April 2009 - 08:08 PM

View Postsplntercell, on Jun 23 2008, 02:36 PM, said:

Python paintball They make a insert system that you can put on any barrel thats threaded for your marker. There about half the length of a freak insert but i realy dont notice a diffrence between the 2.

Also the kit comes with 4 inserts but you can buy aditional inserts sepratly. The 4 that come with it are most common size ones.


I know this thread is dead for a while but I hope this helps. i have one and I love it. I bought a body for each thread/gun to use the kit on all my other markers. (I use a jj ceramic edge elite for my sp1 though, and holy crap!). but pythons an awesome kit. really accurate and doesn't seem to add much weight. I chose it over the freak actually cause the price is right and work as good. the guy who runs it is killer nice too.
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 08:49 AM

View Posteuglow54, on Jun 23 2008, 03:43 PM, said:

BTW, I heard the freak inserts are a bit of a pain to remove. I suggest doing a little research before you purchase anything.


If it's been used, the only thing that would do this would be dirt or paint getting in there somehow. Otherwise, when you first get a barrel that takes freaks that uses O-rings (deadlywind), you should get some oil in there first so that it doesn't get stuck.
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