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Posted 18 January 2009 - 02:28 PM

so i know many sabres and many paintball players and was wondering your opinion on your style of play....if you are a sabre. letme know your opinion.....thanks
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 05:04 PM

I used to be into that positions thing, but as I played more and more, I just forgot about them. Don't limit yourself to one position. Just play the way you like to play, whether you like to make stealthy flanks, or make bold aggressive moves.

Here is my style of play. I am always on the flanks, ahead of the rest of my team. I am very patient. I will move up, scope out the enemy, then fall back and ambush them. Then I do it again, or flank them if I have the option. That is not a Spec Ops position, its my style of play.

Just play the game that you have the most fun playing. Develop your own style of play. Don't pick a position and force yourself to stay within it.

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 05:28 PM

i agree with bagels why tie your self in to one postion? i think it limits your growth as a player just play how u want but keep in mind the main goal of the team
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 01:31 AM

My team and I are starting to find what positions we will be playing at games for more organization and such but the positions will not limit what we play.

I'm going more Medium Riflemen and will be playing in the middle of the battle backing up our light riflemen but I'll go where I'm needed whether its the front lines, the back, tank killing, room clearing, etc.

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I may be playing like a medium riflemen now but will not limit how I play. Why should the position be very specific to what the player can an cannot do, offense, defense, both?
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 07:57 AM

View PostOrpackrat, on Jan 19 2009, 01:31 AM, said:

Why should the position be very specific to what the player can an cannot do, offense, defense, both?


Simple answer: it isn't. As I posted in another thread, there is a difference between a POSITION and a MISSION. A mission is a goal with objectives and purpose. A POSITION is a part of a team set out to accomplish that goal.

So, ANY position can be offensive or defensive. Daggers to clear the outlying structures and vegetation of your base; Hammers to lay suppressive fire until somebody else can clear the invading force; snipers employed to slow troop movements down, etc.

And like said before, just play. When entering stuff into my play log, I don't choose my style before hand. I play, then come back home and ask myself what "position" fit the style of play I did the best.
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Posted 25 January 2009 - 05:18 PM

Like all the rest. Spend less time worrying about position then about developing skills.

Myself I like to be flexible but that is a reflection of my infantry background. An infantryman is trained to do different things- defense, offense, retreat, suppresing fire, and so on. All based on the situation at the time.
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Posted 25 January 2009 - 05:49 PM

I would agree with everybody else, just play. As you do you will see where you like to be and how you like to play. Once you see what your habits are work on the rest of your game. One game play up in the from and be aggressive the next play in the back and be more patient.

Work on things you don't do very well. Do'nt let a name like saber dictate how you will play. let the need on the field do it.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 06:03 AM

I just play the game and do whatever the team needs me to do. That's the great thing about being a sabre, they do everything so it really comes down to what your team needs you to do the most. My suggestion is just play and develop you skills and then see which position you played the most at the end of the day. And after a while, you will see how you develop as a player and which style you prefer to play more, where it is stalking in the woods, carrying around a big gun, or diving into occupied buildings and clearing them out. You should never go in with a set of mind on playing one specific position because it will limit you to a definition. As I said before, go out and play then after you are done, reflect on your day and decided which position you played the most.
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 07:36 AM

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 01:08 AM

Start offensive. Gain ground, shoot people out, and make your way up the field.
If you start losing ground, or just get to a point you can't advance more, lock it down and play Defense.
Clear out the other team with good gunfighting. Then, when you have the numbers again, go back on Offense.
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Posted 05 February 2009 - 03:47 PM

Best defense is a strong offense. I normally play saber for the most part. Even on a defense placement I try to take the fight to the enemy. You are either controlling the situation or being controlled.
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 01:05 PM

Sabres, like all other "positions," can be both offensive and defensive. It really depends on what your mission is. If you have to go to a certain area of the field chances are you will be offensive. If you have to guard your base or any ground your side controls you will be defensive. Sometimes you can be offensive and defensive at the same time.

When I started playing paintball Spec Ops did not exist. Everone who played in the woods just played. If they did use positions they used the same ones that the speedballers used. That is basically what the Spec Ops positions are anyways.
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 10:58 PM

Since "Sabres" are on the lighter end, gear-wise, of SpecOps' marketing positions spectrum, I'd think the Sabres play a piviotal role in your team's offense.

While the Broadsword suppresses and the Dagger rushes and flanks, the Sabre does a bit of both. The Sabre should work with the latter two and fire-and-manouver your way up the field. You shouldn't be doing much suppressing, your Broadswords should be doing that. Sabres should be right behind the Daggers--providing close-in suppressive fire.

Now all that said, to be an effective player, no matter what position you're in, you gotta learn to adapt, as many members have already said. If you see an opening, go for it and rush. If someone's got you pinned down, return accurate suppressing fire, don't wait for the "Broadsword" to shoot back.
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Posted 21 February 2009 - 09:32 AM

View PostJackRock, on Jan 19 2009, 08:57 AM, said:

View PostOrpackrat, on Jan 19 2009, 01:31 AM, said:

Why should the position be very specific to what the player can an cannot do, offense, defense, both?


Simple answer: it isn't. As I posted in another thread, there is a difference between a POSITION and a MISSION. A mission is a goal with objectives and purpose. A POSITION is a part of a team set out to accomplish that goal.

So, ANY position can be offensive or defensive. Daggers to clear the outlying structures and vegetation of your base; Hammers to lay suppressive fire until somebody else can clear the invading force; snipers employed to slow troop movements down, etc.

And like said before, just play. When entering stuff into my play log, I don't choose my style before hand. I play, then come back home and ask myself what "position" fit the style of play I did the best.

I agree with this. Great post.

Everyone wants to rag on the Spec Ops positions, as if they are worthless and meaningless. The positions are perfectly valid descriptions of the types of roles performed during missions. Now to lock oneself into one position "I can't do that, I'm a dagger, not a sabre" is a gross misunderstanding of the purpose of the positions. Or at least, of the practical application of the theory.

I am not advocating some kind of overnerded perspective with people tattooing their positions into their foreheads, etc. But I believe that the position descriptions are valuable as definitions.
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Posted 21 February 2009 - 09:35 AM

Just play paintball. If you got 3 guys playing defensively... bump up... if your back players get eliminated... play more defensively. Just play.
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