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deadly Hpa (nitro) And Co2 Tank Saftey Incidents For experienced and new players

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 10:15 AM

Removed until aussie bloke decides it should be back.

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 10:31 AM

Great thread after reading the recent thread about tanks exlpoding I was starting a similar thread.

Going to pin this its alot of good info that people need to be aware of.

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 10:33 AM

Wow. Food for thought. Great thread, 10-shot!

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 10:34 AM

Nice post. I have heard of the fill nipple thing especially. Nice post.
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 10:35 AM

VERY good post. Most paintball players don't seem to really understand just how dangerous air tanks can be. This should be pinned in the safety section as well as GPD.

Oh, and that bronze part at the end of a co2 tank that goes into the ASA is the valve.
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 11:03 AM

ya ive seen the result of a burst disk going on a full CO2 tank. is was a 20oz and it spun around for about 30 seconds and had reached 5ft in the air. it hit the ground and almost broke a kids leg. (the kid jumped back quick enough)
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 11:52 AM

I'm glad this got pinned, it's an important seldom known subject. I hope people will read the whole bloody thing. It would be nice if specops where to enforce learning about this subject VIA their brigade test thingies.


Reaper: I know but I've heard it refered to as soooooo many diffrent things I tried to make it as clear as possible. Anyone that knows it's a valve can figure out what I'm talking about anyhow. I tried to make it as obvious as possible to new players, remember this was first typed up for the first timer masses of paintball.com ;)


SIDE NOTE: I will be updating the original post as new information about air tank saftey comes to me. Things I would like to cover:
-keeping your HPA tank struturally sound with proper storage (bassically keep 500-1000 psi in it during storage)
-replacing burst disks/fail safe devices (don't put a burst disk with too high a rating on your tank)
-Issues with hydrotesting facilities just stamping tanks without testing them (happens more than you think, serious issue)

These are all issues I have run into in scuba diving. I was licensed by padi to be a rescue diver (never upgraded temp license because I'm retarded) and this is all stuff I put on myself to learn.

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 11:56 AM

Great post, I heard about that incident with the mom and so did my field and they will not under any cercumstances let us take out our own tanks, which I think is a good idea for the most part.

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 11:58 AM

good post. fyi, HPA and Nitrogen arent the same thing. theyre similar, and has similar pressure ranges yes, but pure nitrogen is inert. hpa is "dirty" air, due to the amount of oxygen in it, which would explain why it would burn or explode if mistreated. MCB has a good thread going in there about a similar incidence, several veteran members note the lack of safety precautions in hpa fills as opposed to scuba fills.
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 12:05 PM

camo: I know they are, but given the fact it's out of style to call it a nitro tank now I try to circumvent that simple issue with refrencing both :). Scuba diving has two reasons why there is increased saftey,
1. Scuba shacks don't survive without being certified by a SCUBA agiency such as PADI or that other less important one (joking :P)
2. Scuba divers don't put up with unsafe shinanigans, paintballers do. Just looking at a scuba tank anyone can see how it's dangerous, movies like JAWS helped out with this important perception. A paintball tank on the other hand doesn't look all that dangerous. Hell we stick it to a paintgun and do crazy things with it anyhow. They get tossed, landed on, hit, etc. What people fail to realize is that 3000-4500 PSI is a bloody lot of pressure and can really mess someone or thing up.
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 09:04 PM

Good post 10shot.

I am glad my Oath post inspired you to write it and inform everyone even further about how important it is to not even put a tiny drop in your HPA tank. If you ever see me on the field give me a shout out.
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 09:12 PM

10-shot, it doesnt matter the mass, 3k+ psi is still alot of pressure. and several members have said that they would prefer if the field owners had decided to supply pure nitrogen instead of typical compressed air fills, but of course, field owners never listen do they? :eck: and among one of the safety precautions, putting the tank in a water filled box with armor around the box in order to fill it safely, or a similar pressure containment box as mentioned for scuba fills.
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Posted 24 August 2007 - 01:36 AM

Camo: In terms of perception it does, sorry if I didn't articulate that correctly :(

Teddymo: same to you bro
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Posted 26 August 2007 - 08:54 PM

My old Chemistry prof was a Nazi when it came to policing the gas cylinders in our lab. If you didn't have the thing strapped to the wall, you would get the thing shoved up your butt. Turns out, that when he was working at a lab, someone dropped on, the reg on the end came off, and three concrete walls later, it came to a stop. Thats one thing that field owners need to be aware of, strap those suckers down.

Furthermore, another very potentially dangerous scenario is leaving your 4500 psi tank in your car's trunk... heat increases air pressure and can make the tank explode... thats bad.
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Posted 27 August 2007 - 09:12 AM

wow and my field u fill your tanks yourself, i just read this for the first time haha
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