Posted 22 March 2008 - 04:53 PM
Posted 22 March 2008 - 05:01 PM
Will it ever be over? I replied.
Everything that has a beginning has an ending, he said.
Posted 22 March 2008 - 05:27 PM
The MR1 is not an electric marker. Your thinking of the E-MR1.
Posted 22 March 2008 - 05:40 PM
Personally, I'm not a big fan of either, but if you must choose between the two I would side with the Alpha Black. Spyder's aren't horrible, but the quality of their internals these days is really lacking. They really aren't built to withstand the higher pressures they operate at and suffer from premature wear on the parts leading to long term reliability issues.
While I like the style of MR1s a little more, Tippmann tend to use a little bit high quality materials and the design tends to be more accepting of liquid CO2 getting in.
This post has been edited by Piller: 22 March 2008 - 05:42 PM
"Marketing hype in paintball?! The nerve of some people. After all, we paintballers would never throw our hard earned cash into the magic box of marketing hype."
Posted 22 March 2008 - 05:50 PM
Go to a store and try them out. If one feels better to you, get that one, if they're about the same, I think the masses have spoken.
Posted 23 March 2008 - 05:16 AM
The reason I say this is because:
Both markers you are currently looking at are, essentially, low end mechanical blow backs. Relatively high recoil and sound profile, poor efficiency.
However, they WORK.
I'm not overly familiar with Spyder markers, so I'll explain in comparison to the Tippmann.
On field maintenance is easy, few drops of oil and you're good.
That's where the good stuff ends... if you need to take 'em apart, quite frankly, the clam shell (two halves) design of the Tippmann (US Army) are more of a pain than a good thing - reason being that you have to get everything in place on one side, then carefully put the other half on top without disturbing anything...
Where as the Proto SLG:
On field maintenance requires a little more effort, you have to remove the bolt from the marker (which is a solid piece of aluminum, milled out) and lube it every so often.
Having said that... if your marker starts leaking, you have to do exactly the same thing.
I've worked on both, teched both on the field, the Proto is simply an easier marker in the long run, yes, it costs more... but you'll end up spending money on upgrades for a Tippmann anyway.
And of course you're getting the additional benefit of having semi/ramp/full auto.
But then... you do lose the whole mil-sim aspect.
My real advise is to play with as many markers as you can. At least see if you can hold 'em at a store.
Posted 23 March 2008 - 09:37 PM
People I know that use the MR1 like it quite well. Nevertheless, I would recommend the Alpha Black over the MR1.
The Proto SLG looks like a nice marker. However, as Shrimped points out you can't use CO2 with this marker. So you would have to purchase an HPA tank and suddenly your affordable, lightweight marker becomes very different on both counts.
I have a marker similar to the Alpha Black and one that more closely resembles the Proto. I like them both but based on my personal experience I would recommend that you start with the Alpha Black.
Good luck and have fun!