Teufel_Hunden, on Oct 19 2008, 09:51 AM, said:
other than that they need to get rid of james. the band rocks but the singing sounds the same as when he started singing like that on the black album. maybe they should get dave mustaine back to straighten them out.
Mustaine was the guitarist, not the singer though.
No Quarter, on Oct 19 2008, 07:30 AM, said:
I think Death Magnetic is a great bridge between the old and the new. Many of the songs are for sure reminiscent of the old glory days of the band, while at the same time you can detect the band experimenting with new sounds and styles. I think they did a superb job in bridging the gap and producing an album that appeals to fans of the old as well as fans of the new. By no means has James' voice grown weaker with age. It has matured and like a good wine his voice has only improved with age. I like how he sounds now. Deeper, darker, a more gravely texture than his younger years.
I tend to get a bit bent out of shape when people talk about so-called "old" vs "new" Metallica, and accuse them of being sell outs, and claim their career has been nose diving since 1986. Every Metal band out there with exception to Slayer and Megadeath should kneel and pay homage to Metallica for what they have done for the genre over the years.
People should be more open-minded and flexible. I have no problem with a band spreading it's wings a little bit and experimenting with different sounds and styles. It's a must if they are to survive. Metallica has been around for almost thirty years. Other bands their age are stuck playing county and state fairs while Metallica continues to play to sold out crowds. What would happen to any business that refused to change over three decades? They'd be history. Metallica has played it smart and kept themselves relevant to the metal scene. Of course not every album and every song is going to appeal to 100% of the fans in the same ways.
Metallica's career HAS been nose diving since 1986. Sorry if that offends you, but it's straight fact. Why? Because Cliff died. yes, Cliff is one of my favorite bassists and am I am slightly biased -- but Cliff was an amazing player. And Cliff was also a great musician. When Cliff came into Metallica, they were a bunch of punks with guitars. Cliff taught them musicianship, and that's what made them successful. Cliff essentially taught them how to be better players, and without Cliff's guidance, they took a nose dive.
No one in Metallica has ever been an outstanding musician besides Cliff. Lars is OK and Hammet is mediocre at best. Someone needs to take his wah pedal away though.
You're also confusing "experimenting" with "unoriginal." Hetfield can't sing-ah, his voice is too old-ah. I agree that they should try different things, and if "Whiplash" was all they put out then they wouldn't be anywhere. But Songs like the Call of Ktulu and Orion are experimental. Not this new stuff that's terrible. All they're doing is putting out generic rock -- and it even SOUNDS LIKE they're trying to hard!
Bands don't last forever. They shouldn't. Metallica is too old now. Their time is gone. While I don't jump music scenes, ever, I already do understand that there is a time and a place for each band. When that band's time is up, a new one will take their place. But that doesn't mean you should stop listening to their old stuff.
To put it in simple terms, Metallica's well of music is dry now, and that's why it's bad. Every song has crappy solos. It's just Metallica hoping to recover. Like I said, their time is over. Their creative well began to deplete after Puppets.
And saying Megadeth shouldn't pay homage to Metallica is insane -- while Megadeth didn't get an influence from Metallica, if there wasn't a Metallica, Mustaine may have never of formed Megadeth. Or even if Mustaine was in Metallica and they didn't kick him out, there wouldn't be a Megadeth. Kicking Mustaine out is the greatest thing Metallica ever did.
And "No Quarter" reminds me of something my friend said (No Quarter is his favorite song)...
"the new Metallica album is the definition of a cluster BOINK. It is Metallica trying to throw everything they've ever done into one album and it sounds terrible."
This post has been edited by StealingYerMail: 19 October 2008 - 12:57 PM