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#16 User is offline   Schloob 

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Posted 07 December 2007 - 08:43 AM

View PostChaos, on Dec 7 2007, 08:07 AM, said:

OK, now i'm confused. This is what it says on the Doc that you posted:

SPPL Master Player—Any player who has competed in more than one SPPL Major Event/Qualifier in a previous season.
SPPL Rookie Player— Any player who has not played more than one SPPL Major event/qualifier in the prior season, and has no major National Level tournament experience.

All but two of have only competed in one event. It says a Master Player is anyone who has compted in MORE than one event. We have yet to compete in our second SPPL event, with the exception of me and Fingers, who each have two SPPL events under our belts.

If we have to Masters that is fine, since that I was I was going to push for us to play that division anyway. A win is great, but it's not really worth anything if there is no challenge.

But anyway, if you could clarify, that would be great, I don't want my guys trying to get Rookie IDs if they do not fit into that catagory. Here is a question, can they get a Master level ID even if they are technically a Rookie level player?

And you hinted at "Minor SPPL Events", c'mon, no fair, that's cruel and unusual! Speak up! Details! ....please...... :happy:



Ok I see what you mean. I will correct the workding to say "one or more" for the Masters since by definition under the Rooker classification rule you can only play one year in that division as a team I should say. Because you can have to Masters on a rookie team. I hope that clears it up. I will make the change and update the post.

I will be releasing detailso on the Minor events shorlty but the idea is to have 20-30 minor events at fields all over the country so everyone has a chance to play an sppl event while getting experience game knowledge before attending the Major Events. These events will be much smaller in most cases, run soley but field owenrs or teams who what to put the event an as a funraiser / or to gain points for their national ranking( to be expalined shortly) I will have guidelines that fields and teams have to follow in order to host and event like our format exactly, id cards must be used but other than that they can chage whatever they want for paint and reg fees. They could even do a BYOP thing if they wany.
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 08:59 AM

The devil's in the details, lol

Thanks for clearing that up. So a Rookie player is one event not two. That means my team is a Master division team. So I take it there will be no finals for Rookie division? Since if they qualify for the Rookie division finals, they will have one event under their belts, and there for then be Master division. Or does the change not take effect till the following year?

I'm curious to see how the divisions split up the current teams we have that compete.

Looking forward to info on these minor events and the national ranking system as well.
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 10:04 AM

View PostSchloob, on Dec 7 2007, 08:43 AM, said:

I will be releasing detailso on the Minor events shorlty but the idea is to have 20-30 minor events at fields all over the country so everyone has a chance to play an sppl event while getting experience game knowledge before attending the Major Events. These events will be much smaller in most cases, run soley but field owenrs or teams who what to put the event an as a funraiser / or to gain points for their national ranking( to be expalined shortly) I will have guidelines that fields and teams have to follow in order to host and event like our format exactly, id cards must be used but other than that they can chage whatever they want for paint and reg fees. They could even do a BYOP thing if they wany.



This sounds like something that Lomarandil puts on, called Tri-Wars. He produces it, being similar (but slightly modified for field conditions) to SPPL rules. Is that the idea we can expect (pending details)?
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 10:16 AM

View PostSchloob, on Dec 7 2007, 10:43 AM, said:

I will be releasing detailso on the Minor events shorlty but the idea is to have 20-30 minor events at fields all over the country so everyone has a chance to play an sppl event while getting experience game knowledge before attending the Major Events. These events will be much smaller in most cases, run soley but field owenrs or teams who what to put the event an as a funraiser / or to gain points for their national ranking( to be expalined shortly) I will have guidelines that fields and teams have to follow in order to host and event like our format exactly, id cards must be used but other than that they can chage whatever they want for paint and reg fees. They could even do a BYOP thing if they wany.


That sounds interesting. I know of a couple fields near me that might be good for an event like this. One is Sherwood Forest in La Porte, Indiana. I know they host at least one Viper game a year. The other is my home field of Hole In The Wall Paintball in Bangor, Michigan. This just might be what is needed to get paintball going like it was a few years back in my area.
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 10:17 AM

In the works, JR ;)

Ok, yup, that makes more sense with the "one or more" (rather than "more than one") change Jayson. Thanks!
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 01:02 PM

I think Schloob can pretty much count on the Irregulators/NiteHawk Paintball and B.o.B. both running one of the Minor events.
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 01:15 PM

RagTag, GLR and Delta Ops will prolly work togeather and maybe put something togeather as well.

Off Topic, Third-I, didn't I meet you at MMG this year? Just want to make sure I'm not going crazy.
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 03:51 PM

I'm gonna guess you mean the Michigan Monster Game and, in that case, nope. I didn't get out much this year other than Elite Weekend, playing the Oregon Qualifier and reffing the Utah Qualifier.
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 03:57 PM

Just checking to see if i got this straight. My team has played in the sppl for two years now. Every member of the team as it stands right now has played at least 1 full season and competed in at least 2 or more major sppl events. We also took third place at one of the qualifiers in 2007.....Does this mean we now have to play in the elite division, or are we still in masters divison. None of our team has ever played pro or semi pro and no one has anymore then 6 years of paintball experience, no big sponsers. Just checking so we can order our id cards with the right info on them.

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Posted 07 December 2007 - 04:12 PM

I'm not the authority but, as I read it, the top THREE rule does not take effect yet. If you place top THREE at any time in 2008, you'll be Elite for 2009. For this year, you have to register as Elite if you placed top TWO in 2005-2007.

Again, I'm not the authority on this so you'll want clarification from Schloob or Pale Rider but I believe this is correct.
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 04:44 PM

OK 3rd-I i must just be going crazy

Anyway, I believe 3-I has it right, from the sound of it, you would still be in the Master division. Though I dont know if it will be top two or top three in the 2008 year.
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 06:01 PM

View PostMURPH, on Dec 7 2007, 03:57 PM, said:

Just checking to see if i got this straight. My team has played in the sppl for two years now. Every member of the team as it stands right now has played at least 1 full season and competed in at least 2 or more major sppl events. We also took third place at one of the qualifiers in 2007.....Does this mean we now have to play in the elite division, or are we still in masters divison. None of our team has ever played pro or semi pro and no one has anymore then 6 years of paintball experience, no big sponsers. Just checking so we can order our id cards with the right info on them.

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What team did you play for? As it stands right now if you placed in the top 3 or higher in the 07 season then you would be in the Elite division for 08. Why you ask? Because the level of play in 07 was very high. So if you finished in the top 3 I would think you've got a pretty good team. In order for the divisions to work we have to move people as they get better otherwise they will just stay in the same division and you will have the same team winning the same events every year; which we already have. So, once again, to constantly keep the level of play at a higher level this is how is needs to be.

chaos, to answer your question there will be winners in all three divisions, if teams show up to play in them. Once you are in a divison you are in it for the entire year with the one exception that Acara mentioned and that is for the ONE change to have to move down if you over estimated you Teams skill level. For example, Team Schloob has never played in the SPPL but we rock in our neck of the woods so we think the Rookie division is too easy and choose to play in the Masters division. Unfortunately, once we get there and play in a qualifier Team Schloob soon realizes that there are a lot of other teams out there much better than us right now and we need a lot more work. In that case I will allow them to drop down to the Rookie divison. They have to buy new player cards for that division though.
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 06:21 PM

View PostSchloob, on Dec 7 2007, 08:01 PM, said:

As it stands right now if you placed in the top 3 or higher in the 07 season then you would be in the Elite division for 08.

Do you mean top 3 at the final, or would a top 3 finish at a qualifier put you in elite?
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 06:26 PM

View PostSchloob, on Dec 7 2007, 05:01 PM, said:

View PostMURPH, on Dec 7 2007, 03:57 PM, said:

Just checking to see if i got this straight. My team has played in the sppl for two years now. Every member of the team as it stands right now has played at least 1 full season and competed in at least 2 or more major sppl events. We also took third place at one of the qualifiers in 2007.....Does this mean we now have to play in the elite division, or are we still in masters divison. None of our team has ever played pro or semi pro and no one has anymore then 6 years of paintball experience, no big sponsers. Just checking so we can order our id cards with the right info on them.

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What team did you play for? As it stands right now if you placed in the top 3 or higher in the 07 season then you would be in the Elite division for 08. Why you ask? Because the level of play in 07 was very high. So if you finished in the top 3 I would think you've got a pretty good team. In order for the divisions to work we have to move people as they get better otherwise they will just stay in the same division and you will have the same team winning the same events every year; which we already have. So, once again, to constantly keep the level of play at a higher level this is how is needs to be.

chaos, to answer your question there will be winners in all three divisions, if teams show up to play in them. Once you are in a divison you are in it for the entire year with the one exception that Acara mentioned and that is for the ONE change to have to move down if you over estimated you Teams skill level. For example, Team Schloob has never played in the SPPL but we rock in our neck of the woods so we think the Rookie division is too easy and choose to play in the Masters division. Unfortunately, once we get there and play in a qualifier Team Schloob soon realizes that there are a lot of other teams out there much better than us right now and we need a lot more work. In that case I will allow them to drop down to the Rookie divison. They have to buy new player cards for that division though.



Ok now I am confused? You buy a card as an individual. So if you fall into the spical rule and do get to drop, as a team, why would you have to buy a new card. Wont you still be an individaul rookie till the next year? Or does your individaul rank change with each game?
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 08:21 PM

OK, its a little tricky, bit I believe i have it figured out. Dang Schloob, you must of put alot of work into all this....
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