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#1 User is offline   MaDuce 

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 09:45 PM

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A Texas-born U.S. citizen who was detained, questioned and deported to Matamoros, Mexico, in the middle of the night has been allowed to re-enter the United States, ending a nearly three-month ordeal.

Luis Alberto Delgado, 19, was carrying his American birth certificate, Social Security card and Texas ID when he was pulled over in a routine traffic stop on June 17, according to Houston immigration lawyer Isaias Torres, who represented him in his legal battle for repatriation.

A South Texas sheriff’s deputy who apparently believed the documents were not authentic handed Delgado over to U.S. border agents. After eight hours of questioning, Torres said, Delgado felt pressured to sign a document agreeing to voluntary removal from the country and waiving his right to a lawyer. The Border Patrol then drove Delgado to Matamoros and left him, he said.

He was finally able to return home over the weekend, Torres said.

The U.S. Customs and Border Protection service said it could not comment specifically on Delgado’s case. But in a statement it said, “When an individual requests and is granted a voluntary return, they sign a notice of rights where they are admitting to being in the U.S. illegally and give up their right to a hearing in Immigration Court.”

Delgado was born in Houston, but spent much of his childhood in Mexico with his mother after she divorced his father and returned to her native land. Delgado, who speaks remedial English, did not speak to msnbc.com for this story. But Spanish-language newspapers have quoted him as saying that he believes he was discriminated against because of his poor language skills.

A Texas-born U.S. citizen who was detained, questioned and deported to Matamoros, Mexico, in the middle of the night has been allowed to re-enter the United States, ending a nearly three-month ordeal.

Luis Alberto Delgado, 19, was carrying his American birth certificate, Social Security card and Texas ID when he was pulled over in a routine traffic stop on June 17, according to Houston immigration lawyer Isaias Torres, who represented him in his legal battle for repatriation.

A South Texas sheriff’s deputy who apparently believed the documents were not authentic handed Delgado over to U.S. border agents. After eight hours of questioning, Torres said, Delgado felt pressured to sign a document agreeing to voluntary removal from the country and waiving his right to a lawyer. The Border Patrol then drove Delgado to Matamoros and left him, he said.

He was finally able to return home over the weekend, Torres said.

The U.S. Customs and Border Protection service said it could not comment specifically on Delgado’s case. But in a statement it said, “When an individual requests and is granted a voluntary return, they sign a notice of rights where they are admitting to being in the U.S. illegally and give up their right to a hearing in Immigration Court.”

Delgado was born in Houston, but spent much of his childhood in Mexico with his mother after she divorced his father and returned to her native land. Delgado, who speaks remedial English, did not speak to msnbc.com for this story. But Spanish-language newspapers have quoted him as saying that he believes he was discriminated against because of his poor language skills.

But Delgado was questioned from about 4 p.m. until around midnight, when he agreed to sign the waiver in the mistaken belief that he would be able to return to the border city of Brownsville to solve the misunderstanding, Torres said.

“They kept saying, ‘These are not your documents. You’re lying to us. You’re going to go prison for 20 years’,” Torres said. “They basically wore him down. He’s a 19-year-old kid.”

While staying with cousins in a town near the border, Delgado tried to plead his case. When he was unsuccessful, his brother located immigration lawyer Torres, who took the case pro bono.

His mother traveled 600 miles from her home in Michoacan, Mexico, to be interviewed in support of her son, according to the Houston Chronicle, which first reported Delgado’s story on Monday. Torres said Delgado’s case is unusual because he had proper documentation with him.

“I’ve had residents who were deported because they didn’t have their green cards (on them), but not a U.S. citizen,” Torres said. “This was basically a language thing. They thought he was lying because he doesn’t speak English well.”

But he said he anticipates this kind of situation will become more common because many U.S.-born kids are now being raised in Mexico.

“A lot of these kids born here are getting raised over there because their parents have been deported or they left because of the economy or whatever,” said Torres.

Delgado is planning to file a tort claim for negligence on the part of the federal officials, Torres said, but in the meantime he’s looking for work.

He lost his construction job when he disappeared suddenly, Torres said, adding that several people have e-mailed him offering jobs to Delgado since his story appeared in the Chronicle.


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By TOM SHINE and HUMA KHAN

WASHINGTON, Sept. 14, 2010 —

It was July 14, 2004, when Sara Reedy's life changed forever.

The then 19-year-old was working her usual 3:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. shift at a gas station in Cranberry Township, Penn. She was by herself, when, near the end of her shift, a man walked in, pulled a gun, told her to sit in the corner and took all the cash in the store. He then put the gun to her head and sexually assaulted her.

For Reedy, the attack was just the beginning of a long nightmare. When she reported the incident to the police, the detective assigned to her case refused to believe her. Instead, he accused her of taking drugs, stealing money from the store and then fabricating the sexual assault story as a cover.

The detective pressured Reedy to confess and when she didn't, he got an arrest warrant and put her in jail for theft, receiving stolen property and filing a false police report. Reedy was four months pregnant with her first child.

Reedy's serial rapist, however, struck again and was caught. It was only after he confessed to raping Reedy, that she was released.

Today, Reedy told her emotional story to a Senate Judiciary subcommittee, which held a hearing on uninvestigated rape cases and whether police departments in major cities are underestimating and ignoring such rape cases.

"After this experience, it left me concerned if I would ever be able to rely on an officer to do his job," Reedy said. "Because of (the detective's) uncooperative attitude and unwillingness to believe me, the victim, a serial rapist was allowed to continue attacking and assaulting other women."

According to The Women's Law Project, Reedy's story is not unique.

"There is no question that sexual stereotypes and bias are a root cause of police mishandling of sex crimes," Carol E. Tracy, executive director of the Pennsylvania-based group, told Senators. "The view that sex crimes are marginal issues permeates police departments across the country and contributes to the underreporting of rape and sexual assault."

On Monday, the FBI said that violent crimes reported to the police were down for a third straight year, dropping 5.3 percent in 2009. Reported cases of rape dropped by 2.6 percent.

Attorney General Eric Holder said that smarter policing practices and investments in law enforcement played a significant role in reducing violent and property crime, according to the Associated Press. But not everyone believes those figures, and media investigations in several different cities have shown the situation to be in stark contrast.

Tracy today argued that the data is not reflective of actual rape cases because firstly, law enforcement agencies are not required by law to submit data -- they do so voluntarily -- and secondly, rape cases are undercounted by police, thus compounding the inaccuracy of the FBI statistics.

"The combination of bias and an unrealistic definition result in highly unreliable data on the incidence of sex crime in America," Tracy said.

Sen. Arlen Specter, D-Penn., who is chairing today's hearing, had questions about some of those figures too.

"Studies have established that the annual rate of rapes has not decreased in the last 20 years and the lifetime prevalence of rape, in fact, has increased by more than 25 percent. These statistics conflict with official government data that show annual decreases in the rape rate," said a press release about the hearing.

Last July, a lengthy investigation by The Baltimore Sun revealed that police in that city were ignoring rape claims and refusing to pass them on to investigators.

Before the newspaper's exhaustive investigation in June, reported rape cases in Baltimore were down by 15 percent for the year. But a headline in this morning's Baltimore Sun reads that reports of rapes in the city are actually up by 20 percent this year, a sharp increase since new police procedures were sparked by the Baltimore Sun investigation.

A similar investigation by the Philadelphia Inquirer in 2000 revealed that the police department in that city "downgraded" rapes for nearly two decades, and secretly dumped thousands of cases of rape with hardly any investigation.

Tracy told Senators today that police departments in several big cities, including St. Louis, New Orleans, Milwaukee, Cleveland and New York are employing similar tactics "to sweep reports of rape under the rug."

Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, according to the U.S. Department of Justice, even though one out of every six American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime.

The Women's Law Project and other groups helped uncover 681 cases that were misclassified by the Philadelphia Police Department, and 1,700 other cases that should have been investigated as other sex crimes. Today, the organization requested that the FBI do a nationwide audit to investigate what they see as discrepancy and bias in their data.

The hearing today was one of the last chaired by Specter before he leaves office at the end of the year.

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 10:23 PM

> implying I ever had any faith in "The System."

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 04:43 AM

"You got your papers?" "Hmmm ... Come with me"

Reminds me of that Born in East LA song.
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 07:11 AM

My wife knows what Sarah went through.

She wasn't raped but was sexually assaulted. Cops told me to quit my job because she had men lined up and I needed to keep an eye on her. The wife ended up being charged with public mischief and filing a false report. The only thing that kept things short and her out of jail were that neither the attacker or the investigating officer appeared in court. Supposedly the attacker had phone messages from my wife begging him to come over... Oddly those disappeared from the evidence locker.

On the plus side a few months later we found out that the investigating officer (female no less) had been investigated and fired due to incompetence.

It's no wonder people fall back to vigilante justice.
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 07:22 AM

What is this "faith in the system" you speak of?
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 03:09 PM

Based upon my experience with "the system", I'm pretty disappointed in it. It works great if you or no one around you ever makes a mistake, or is associated with anyone who ever makes a mistake, but it's a crap shoot beyond that. I would like to think that these are isolated incidents, and many people in LE or similar lines of work are good people just like the rest of us trying to make sense of this world and get by, but more and more I hear about abuses of power and LE deciding guilt or innocence before people ever get to trial. LE's job is to apprehend and detain suspects, gather evidence and witness statements, and testify in court when called upon to so...not coerce people into incriminating themselves or convicting themselves, especially people unfamiliar or inexperienced with the law or their civil rights, like young people for example. Young people see most adults as authority figures who are supposed to be there for protection, counsel, and guidance, so there is a tendency to trust them...and have that trust violated and abused in the process. America has allowed fear to make us a police state. All of us have lost our freedom as a result...we just don't know it because we don't see any bars or guards...and when you do, it's too late...you're probably behind them.

Do not put your faith in the system...that's what the system wants...cattle being led quietly to the slaughterhouse...all to feed those who run the system. The system does not serve us...we are intended to become it's servants. Do not allow anyone to show you the American Dream, it is just that...a dream and an illusion. Love each other, not material things or possessions...these things belong to and are of the system. Attaining these things chains and binds you to the system. Learn to live simply, depend not upon the system, but yourself and your wits. It's difficult nowadays to stay off the grid all the time, but you do not have to remain there all of the time either. Take what you need from the system, and leave the rest for others to graze upon. The feed is not free, and at some point, the debt must be paid to the system.

When a government "of the people and by the people" fares better than "the people", it is no longer a government, but an empire built for those in power, and of wealth and influence. This "Rome" shall fall, too.
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 03:18 PM

The Patriot Act says nation first. The government is always right under it.
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 12:16 AM

Damn the Patriot Act. I follow the Pirate Act.
It states "Family, Friends, Health. All else is secondary. Do what you got to do to keep those three from suffering." Though, "family" is relative. I have friends I would consider family ahead of actual people related to me. But you get the point.


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Posted 16 September 2010 - 08:00 AM

View PostPirate, on 16 September 2010 - 03:16 AM, said:

Damn the Patriot Act. I follow the Pirate Act.
It states "Family, Friends, Health. All else is secondary. Do what you got to do to keep those three from suffering." Though, "family" is relative. I have friends I would consider family ahead of actual people related to me. But you get the point.




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