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#1 User is offline   BlueJoe 

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Posted 24 June 2006 - 08:25 PM

EDIT: Bring PAINTBALL pistols with you?

At a field I play at, the cops had to be called because the ref was shooting a local man(65-early 70's), because they supposedly got into a fight. On might part, I would like to know if your allowed to "SHOOT" them. Im pretty sure they let you keep one with you while your on the field, I've seen alot of refs with them, but to shoot them!? I thought you use it to scare them...

Well post your opinions..

They actually ceased the game, took us off the field, and he-(the older man) was still fighting with the ref, and he shot him straight in the chest, point blank, with 3 shots :P

This post has been edited by BlueJoe: 24 June 2006 - 08:32 PM

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Posted 24 June 2006 - 08:28 PM

What that particular ref did was totally uncalled for...

However...it is not unheard of for referee's to carry pistols or paintball markers to help "Aid" players to notice hits...

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Posted 24 June 2006 - 08:30 PM

But come on.. He could have called another Ref to help remove him, not shoot a 70 year old man in the chest! lol point blank. And he fell to the ground in a pile of wet muddy woodchips yelling HELP HELP lol
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Posted 24 June 2006 - 08:30 PM

Im assuming your reffering to a paint marker right?
Not a gun? Seems a bit harsh to carry a "gun" as a ref.....your statement leave a lot of questions.
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Posted 24 June 2006 - 08:32 PM

View PostBlueJoe, on Jun 24 2006, 11:25 PM, said:

Bring pistols with you?

At a field I play at, the cops had to be called because the ref was shooting a local man(65-early 70's), because they supposedly got into a fight. On might part, I would like to know if your allowed to "SHOOT" them. Im pretty sure they let you keep one with you while your on the field, I've seen alot of refs with them, but to shoot them!? I thought you use it to scare them...

Well post your opinions..

They actually ceased the game, took us off the field, and he-(the older man) was still fighting with the ref, and he shot him straight in the chest, point blank, with 3 shots :P


So do you, (or refs at your local fields) carry pistols?

and has anything like this ever happend

sorry about that! lol i fixed it =D
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Posted 24 June 2006 - 08:55 PM

wait... so can i carry a supersoaker? FREAKIN SWEET!!! lol, i wonder if i can get my boss to pay for it...
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Posted 24 June 2006 - 09:01 PM

He handled it wrong and should be put on probation from the field.

If it's an outlaw game, DEFINATELY, Ref's should be allowed to carry guns if they want to. They're playing with strangers, and some dinks love nothing more than shooting people for NO REASON. (we have one, but we don't shoot him back...)

Only SWAT and Law Enforcers have the go to use rubber bullets, sand bags, and other non-leathal projectiles to subdue enraged peoples. He should have just talked to the manager and walked away from it, or got another ref to help take him down hand to hand and then call some cops in for support.

See, what he did is called assault. He would have been fine if he were defending himself by shooting at the man after being shot at, but he shot first.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 08:57 AM

We are not allowed to carry any type of pistol or paintball marker at all. Actually, the main field I work, we have a rule prohibiting us from bringing our paintball markers to the field at all, unless we are selling them to someone else. The same is not true of the other two fields that the owner has.


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Posted 03 July 2006 - 02:38 PM

Extremely Un-called for.
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Posted 06 July 2006 - 07:01 PM

I am allowed to, and do on occasion carry a Zeus sidearm while reffing.

I have never had the need to shoot someone. I have drawn it when someone wiped, and let them know that it was drawn. Of course they walked off the field, and I had no need to shoot them. I could see having the need to if someone was attempting to attack me, with their marker or otherwise. I'm not talking accidentaly hitting me, that happens alot. I mean if I was physically threatened, then I could see the need to.

Do you have any more info on what happened to cause the ref to shoot?
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Posted 06 July 2006 - 07:24 PM

I have never carried a marker onto the field unless it is to replace a rental gun. That sounds like a bad idea. If your a ref you should lead by example, that seems very negative to the refs image.
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Posted 06 July 2006 - 07:37 PM

View PostRuckus Fox, on Jun 24 2006, 09:01 PM, said:

Only SWAT and Law Enforcers have the go to use rubber bullets, sand bags, and other non-leathal projectiles to subdue enraged peoples. He should have just talked to the manager and walked away from it, or got another ref to help take him down hand to hand and then call some cops in for support.
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If i have to defend myself with a gun I would rather use a rubber bullet and be 'judged by nine than carried by six'. People are crazy and once you mix adrenaline, tesosterone, and markers firing projectiles at 200mph then it sounds like it could get awefully sticky before it takes the average response time of about 10-15min to save your butt when it only takes moment. Non and less lethal munitions are a much more practical alternative to self defense than a knife or real bullets.

The guys who wait for somone else to pull the trigger end up dead or severly hurt. Ask the guys in the body bags. If somone pulls a knife on me I wont want for them to stab me to disarm them, somone pulls a gun on me I wont wait for the bullet to leave the barrel before I pull a 'Matrix' and shoot them back. Somone aims thier marker at me with an intent to hurt me, then I wont wait for the wind to be knocked out of me to retaliate with minimal effciency.

If you are being attacked than i dont think you have much time to go get somone to hold your hand, not to mention to think straight.

Do I totally agree with his decision? Heck no. I think his animal instincts of 'the will to survive' are a bit stronger than a few bills.

Of course, to me it sounds like the guy was acting in self-defense but if he did it out of anger or somthing stupid then I dont condone it but I'm all for surviving.
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Posted 06 July 2006 - 07:48 PM

View PostDelta Heretic, on Jul 6 2006, 08:01 PM, said:

I am allowed to, and do on occasion carry a Zeus sidearm while reffing.

I have never had the need to shoot someone. I have drawn it when someone wiped, and let them know that it was drawn. Of course they walked off the field, and I had no need to shoot them. I could see having the need to if someone was attempting to attack me, with their marker or otherwise. I'm not talking accidentaly hitting me, that happens alot. I mean if I was physically threatened, then I could see the need to.

Do you have any more info on what happened to cause the ref to shoot?


I agree. The pistol should be used as merely self-defense, though I would not draw it on someone who wiped. I would inform them they were out, and that they better get off the field, and never wipe again. And if they refuse, I yell at them to get off. Then, if they still refuse, that's when the pistol comes out. Yell at them to get out. They still don't, now they are hit.
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Posted 07 July 2006 - 03:55 AM

I have never witnessed a ref shoot a player and hope I never do.

IMO, that's not what a ref stands for. I would not expect it any more than I would expect to see a football ref tackle a player on the field or a soccer ref kick a player during a game.

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 04:39 AM

I think what that particular ref did was wrong, I doubt there was any need for that man to be shot at. Refs carrying pistols is a good idea I think. You just respect and listen to a guy a lot more when you know he can pull a pistol on you, even if the ref is just being threatening.
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