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Becoming a sniper Can you make the cut? Rate Topic: ***** 2 Votes

#76 User is offline   ghostinthewood 

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 05:34 PM

View PostHaunted Hunter, on Dec 23 2006, 11:30 PM, said:

View PostThe weasle, on Sep 18 2006, 08:42 PM, said:

Sorry to all the boys and girls out there whose dream is to become a paintball "sniper," it is non-existent. Most of the time a "sniper," sits around in a hot burlap sack for hours on end waiting for that perfect shot that never comes until a person walks up on them from behind and rips them a new DUMPER. Also, you don’t have to be wearing a ghillie suits to be able to follow someone through the woods with out being seen...I'm more prone to see a moving bush which is a few feet wide and looks like a blob then to see something with less body mass, and on that note you can be wearing bright red laying in or crouching 3 feet off of a road and people STILL wont notice you.

Just posted this on another anti-sniper thread........

HAHAHAAHAA! Yep, I think we need to ask a lot of questions to get the discussion off of snipers.
Paintball commander? Come on, be real. This isn't the military and no one has to listen to you.
Multiple variations of Rifleman? Sorry, it's a marker you are using, not a rifle. Maybe we should attach bayonets.
Paintball Grenade? Not even close, as I just noted in a recent post on grenades.
Tanks? Let's put a cardboard box on a scatboard!
Land mines? Try walking into a claymore

Dont forget paintball barrels. Barrels are for guns not paintball guns. Or how about Spyders. They're markers not bugs. I mean c'mon!

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 08:41 AM

See, its guys like weasel and haunter hunter who give those of us who love to debate the topic a horrible name, we all get labled as 'wannabees' or 'haters' because a few kids flame and trash the opposition.

And, I guess if you want to look at it their way: "Angels" should have wings and "Stiffi" certainly isn't what you think it is. :D

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I have never been shot by a player in a ghillie suit.
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View PostReb, on Feb 16 2007, 11:41 AM, said:

See, its guys like weasel and haunter hunter who give those of us who love to debate the topic a horrible name, we all get labled as 'wannabees' or 'haters' because a few kids flame and trash the opposition.

And, I guess if you want to look at it their way: "Angels" should have wings and "Stiffi" certainly isn't what you think it is. B)

Stiffi is a funny word. Stiffi, lol. But I just thought of something, is it odd that I use a Spyder Pilot with a custom 24" ceramic/carbon barrel? I mean, the barrel is like 3 times longer than the gun, even though I have a quite nice stock. Oh, and as a tip for new people, if you're bothering to read my post, Get a stock, totally helps balance out the gun if you have a long barrel Like I do. And Look into getting custom barrels, they might be expensive usually, but it's worth it.

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 11:16 AM

I have just one question, If a paintball sniper doen's exist... WHY IS THIS FORUM AVAIBLE??? I think that this forum preety much explains that there are paintball snipers and they do exist

and one more thing No Such thing as a Sniper?

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 11:48 AM

It's not so much about the existence of paintball snipers, it's confusion about their role. Many people, snipers included, think their job is the same as an actual sniper, forgetting that a paintball marker just doesn't work that way.
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 01:18 PM

a paintball gun obvisually cant shoot hundreds of yards
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Posted 23 May 2007 - 05:08 AM

View PostAssasin2213, on May 10 2007, 01:18 PM, said:

a paintball gun obvisually cant shoot hundreds of yards


Correct, but with that lack of range, other qualities of the sniper also become negated. A 'Paintball sniper' has to remember these and cease with the comparison between himself and someone who has been properly trained. The 'snipers' get a bad name because the vast overwhelming majority of them fail to make the connection to reality.
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Posted 23 May 2007 - 06:00 AM

The one thing that i find nonbelievers nagging on snipers is that we can't shoot long range. Even if we proove there are snipers, they always say that there arn't because we can't shoot far.
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Posted 23 May 2007 - 06:50 AM

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a paintball gun obvisually cant shoot hundreds of yards


...with that lack of range, other qualities of the sniper also become negated...'snipers' get a bad name because the vast overwhelming majority of them fail to make the connection to reality.


I wouldn't necessarily say "negated", but the challenge or degree of difficulty increases to a level I do not think many would-be-snipers here are prepared for, or that their expectations are realistically aligned with. As with one of the five senses, when one is removed, a person learns to compensate for a lost sense by developing, accentuating, and relying more heavily on the senses that remain. Physically challenged people do not surrender to their lost functionality; they improvise. Possessing the ability to shoot with precision over long distances (a relative term) is only one characteristic, attribute, or quality of a field effective sniper. If that field advantage is reduced or eliminated, they improvise.

The primary advantage of distance to a sniper is the minimized risk of detection and engagement by the enemy; distance facilitates concealment. While effective range distances are considerably shorter in paintball, does that mean one cannot hide from an opponent within a proximity of 150 feet or less? I have hidden in the darkness so close to my prey that I could feel their breath on my face. I have remained so motionless in broad daylight that I have spooked people near me who didn't realize I was real...hidden in plain view. Does a military sniper always have 1000 yards of unobstructed field of view to ensure his position is not compromised? Would a sniper prefer to move closer to his intended target if doing so would improve his odds while still maintaining his cover? Are snipers forced to improvise when the preferred/expected/anticipated/planned shot is not available? Distance is a factor, a consideration, not an absolutely essential necessity to an effective sniper...when that factor is compromised, a sniper must improvise.

In fact, if there is any one attribute all snipers share and rely upon to be effective or successful, it is their enhanced ability to improvise. A sniper, paintball or otherwise, must be able to improvise his appearance, technique, skills, and thinking to the situation, environment, and challenges he encounters EVERY time he is in the field. Sniper camouflage is not one style for all occasions. It must be improvised each and every time to blend with the current field landscape...everything from the densest rainforest to the most barren desert. When the expected shot does not line up, the sniper must find another angle. When the target moves, the sniper must move. If the target is close, the risk of detection increases, so stealth and diversion become greater factors. When the target is far away, there is increased risk for other objects to move into one's line of sight...these objects must be accounted for. If the cover is poor, the sniper must go lower and slower to get into position for target acquisition. If the day is windy, the sniper must take that into account. If the target is moving, that must be accounted for.

Again, the sniper must be able to improvise upon any given situation or surrounding. True, this attribute is seen in and useful to other roles or assignments, but it is absolutely critical and essential to being a successful and effective sniper...yes, a sniper, paintball or otherwise, must be able to make precision shots (relatively speaking) from concealed positions REGARDLESS of distance (relatively speaking) and other FACTORS, but a sniper must truly be a master at improvising.

View PostAssasin2213, on May 23 2007, 09:00 AM, said:

The one thing that i find nonbelievers nagging on snipers is that we can't shoot long range. Even if we proove there are snipers, they always say that there arn't because we can't shoot far.


People here tend to fail to make the distinction between distance being a factor, and not a sniper attribute. It reminds me of my kids when they say there is nothing to eat in the house. I point out the bread and lunchmeat for sandwiches, milk and cereal, fruit and vegetables, and the occasional leftover in the fridge and they respond with, "Well, there is no GOOD food in the house!", meaning fast food or goodies. I think when people state there are no snipers in paintball, they really mean to state there are no GOOD paintball snipers, which may or may not be the case depending upon their experience, and their attitude towards snipers, paintball or otherwise.

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 10:54 AM

They only say there are no such thing as snipers cause they got shot and they don't know who did it.
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Posted 13 June 2007 - 11:45 PM

View PostLONGBOW, on Oct 31 2006, 10:52 PM, said:

View PostThe Scout, on Oct 19 2006, 05:29 PM, said:

He's calling us non-existent because he's never seen us which means our ghillie works after all. :happy:


Yeah that is true. Wonder if he has ever heard the quote "There is one sniper...I wonder where he is?" Lol.


or is there only one? :ghillie:


good post read it all... while im not exactly a noob i haven't played for a while and im a bit rusty this thread defenantly helps
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Posted 14 June 2007 - 02:37 PM

awesome thread overall, thanks for some of the help. I don't think it matters how many posts we make though.....there will always be some muppets and newbies who don't understand the position. and as for anyone who claims that there is no sniper?.............well.........that's probubly because he has never met a real one....I would think with the sniper craze spec ops has started the myth would be replaced with reality fro everyone, guess not. :dodgy:
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:15 PM

great post!


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Posted 18 July 2007 - 10:33 AM

Thanks for the information, this was quite useful and I will use it as reference for sniping and for snipers. Very well written thread, great job.
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 08:47 AM

:ghillie: Good Point :ghillie:
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