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PMR reliability? any experience with protos rail?

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 11:24 AM

I am planning on purchasing a pmr from tot, and I was looking to get any kind of feedback on how reliable they are. I have searched google and pb reviews, but I am getting mixed results. I have heard they tend to leak. I am basically wanting to know if its more reliable then my ion. I dont really like playing withit because its always leaking, and I am tired of constantly servicing it. So any kind of feedback would be helpful. Also, a lpr reg is not neccessary correct? Thanks

also, if this is in the wrong section, please let me know.

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 11:44 AM

Since it's a spoolie it has the same maintence as an ion. However it's easier to service. They're both blow-forward design.

It works on both HPA and LPA tanks. It uses a hyper 2 reg which is awesome.

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 12:24 PM

i haven't heard that about pmr's ... but i know from personal experience that proto makes and excellent gun , and they are all very easy to service ...
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Posted 08 November 2008 - 01:15 PM

Never heard of leaking problems myself, and Proto makes a solid product (after all, it's basically a Dye) that has always performed for my friends who own them. PBR's reviews need to be taken with a grain of salt, as the newb quotient is often high there, and you don't always get the most reliable advice. The Rail is a very nice mid-end marker, so I'd go for it. Just make sure you read the manual and learn how to service it, and you should be fine.
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Posted 08 November 2008 - 09:59 PM

Its a solid gun but I can't stand the bolt design of any pm/dms. Too complicated IMO. PMRs still are great guns, especially for the price.

If you want something extremely reliable I'd go with a fusion. Very simple. very easy to maintenance.

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 10:07 PM

my friend loves his, as long as you use some DOW33 at the end of the day, you're golden. He hasn't replaced his O-rings since March, and he plays at lease twice a month, and shoots a lot.
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Posted 09 November 2008 - 10:48 AM

Love mine, never had problem with leaking that was due to the gun.
Easy enough to clean.


I went from an ion to a PMR also, the PMR is DEFINITELY better
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 03:57 PM

When adjusting the reg for velocity while its pressurized if you screw the reg out to far you will blow the solenoid because their is no LPR and the air goes straight from the reg to the solenoid, and the solenoid is only rated for 200 PSI which is only like 40 more psi then the operating pressure so if your not careful you can blow your noid.
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Posted 17 November 2008 - 03:11 PM

my friend has a matrix rail and he loves it. Never had a problem with it. No leaks or whatever you said. Now, as to wether it's better than an ion or not...DUUUUUHHHH!!!!! I had an Ion and got to play with it twice before it got fried in the rain. I currently own an SLG, which is a small step down from the matrix rail and I adore it. It's made by the same company (DYE) which makes amazing guns. My advice is to get it. You won't regret it.
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Posted 06 December 2008 - 06:52 PM

View Postd4rkmonkey, on Nov 8 2008, 10:59 PM, said:

Its a solid gun but I can't stand the bolt design of any pm/dms. Too complicated IMO. PMRs still are great guns, especially for the price.

If you want something extremely reliable I'd go with a fusion. Very simple. very easy to maintenance.



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Posted 06 December 2008 - 08:02 PM

Ayo Dag, Buy that rail for yourself. I've got an 07 camo special edition and i love it . It came stock with a metal endcap and an upped trigger. I'm a total upgrade whore and all I've done to it is green eyes and a feedneck. It is my #1 backup and has yet to let me down.
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Posted 06 December 2008 - 09:21 PM

View PostBobbjoe, on Dec 6 2008, 08:52 PM, said:

View Postd4rkmonkey, on Nov 8 2008, 10:59 PM, said:

Its a solid gun but I can't stand the bolt design of any pm/dms. Too complicated IMO. PMRs still are great guns, especially for the price.

If you want something extremely reliable I'd go with a fusion. Very simple. very easy to maintenance.



Whats to understand? Its pretty simple..


As I said, bolt design. I guess its an issue with many spool designed, but DMs/PMs just have soooo many orings and the 4(?) to the bolt design just kind of annoy me. Its not that I don't understand it or anything, its just too complicated IMO for me to want in my gun.
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Posted 07 December 2008 - 09:55 AM

My brother has one and I's an awesome marker. Quiet too. Spoolies aren't really my thing but it definatly is a nice marker and he has yet to have something go wrong with his.
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