ghostinthewood, on 19 November 2010 - 11:35 AM, said:
I'm looking at 700 for a functioning rifle that I can do what I want with. I'm aware they jump in price to close 1200 but I'm hoping I'm not being too naive. A sling, bipod, etc. are all kind of secondary. I've thought a lot about iron sights and what I dont like about the A2 is that they seem really narrow. I'd rather a flip up front sight too but thats not as big of a deal to me. I just really dislike the sights on the carry handle. lol
Something like that seems a lot more practical. Some of those flip ups seems real flimsy though.
So if I could get by with iron sights maybe that'd cut down some. Let me mention I'm just lookng to hit human sized targets at 400yrds, not trying to put them through the same hole (though I'll try like hell). So, the more I'm thinking about this the more I'm submitting to optics being secondary and I'll be a better shooter for it.
I still do not trust steel cased ammo despite some people saying they have no issues with it through their 5.56 barrels. Just personal preference. I wouldn't shoot Walmart paint through my Victory either.
I'm heard a lot of problems with steel cased stuff and Wolf specifically.
Well, yeah- Thalion beat me to it but $700 is kind of low.
But you can do good for only a little more-
You can get a Spikes Tactical ST-15 Midlength for $810.(Spike's Middy
Or you can buy a complete Mid upper (same company) from Aimsurplus.com for $480, and a lower for around $250, for a total of around $730, but with no rear sight.
Granted that's before shipping and transfer fees, but still pretty good for a complete rifle.
The stupid carry handle is removable so you can change out the sights.
A Midwest Industries sight like your picture is about $80-ish(?). They also make a low-profile version of the sight.
On a side note- I haven't personally seen this, but it seems that their apertures may not be aligned correctly- i.e., a zero with the small aperture might change if you switch to the large one. Also some folks don't like the screw because, well...it's a screw.
But it's still an excellent second to a Troy.
You can get a good sling for about $20- check out a brand called 'Boonie Packer'. Or a Blue Force Gear Victory for about $37(?). Both are very similar.
I second the Magpul handguard ($30 +/-) to the point where I would consider switching to it one of my first tasks if I was in your position- you can also add individual rail sections (approx. $15 ea.) to attach a light.
A Surefire G2 LED can be had for around $55- Check out the multi-brightness Pro G2X- that way you can also use it for other less light-intensive tasks. Can't say much on a light mount- your perference toward a fixed or quick detach mount will decide the price range. But right now one of my favorites is by Gear Sector- Ergonomic and lightweight, although it may not be as easy to get on/off as others. Runs about $65.
If you just can't stand the standard stock like me, A Magpul MOE can be had for under $60- It's almost the same thing as a CTR, just without the locking lever and QD points. Although I'd get the CTR because I'd want those options- again your preference. Plus a pile of Pmags for about $15 each.
So yeah, for the total package you're going for around $1,060- 1,270 pre-shipping/fees.
BUT: before I get assassinated here- I'm not in any way saying you just HAVE to have it ALL NOW. I'm just throwing out a price for a basic setup not much more pricey than where you're at. By all means make a project out of it- it'll be more fun, and give you time to shop around, and/or save up a bit more for better components.
As far as the steel ammo- I don't like it much either, and do my best to stay away even though, as has been pointed out, Wolf has improved a bit.
If you need to save some money or steel is your only option, check out Hornady- they make a steel cased training round that seems to be much more reliable than Wolf, and is still dirt cheap.