New Pump Mag Need some help
Posted 23 December 2008 - 01:11 PM
The actually gun (it's raining outside, sorry for the bad pic ):
The Parts I need help identifying:
The first picture is of a a power tube spacer kit, but what are they used for?
The second picture is of a bunch of different o-rings, a triangular black thing, and something to do with a twistlock?
The third picture is of a cp on-off asa, twistlock to cocker adapter, wave springs. I know what those 3 are/ used for. Then there's a black and a red spring (different velocity main springs?), then some sears maybe (2 have trigger rods?), a black metal circluar thing, 2 screws, 1 thing with threads, a couple of smooth pieces of metal, and another o-ring.
The fourth pic is just a closeup of the parts I couldn't identify from the third.
As you guys can tell, I know some about mags, but not a level of detail that I'd like.
Posted 23 December 2008 - 01:48 PM
No Idea what they are, I'd guess something to do with spacing the powertube.
the top baggie looks like some on/off O-rings.
The black triangular thing is a foamie for a lv.7 bolt, the original anti chop, right?
the black squiggly thing is a wire detent for a twistlock barrel.
the blue o-rings are rubber bumpers used to cushion the return stroke of the bolt.
-that's all I can figure out, the others are just O-rings and some random c-clip.
-CP on/off. Duh.
-the two things in baggies right below them are "wave springs"- they're what make the P-mag tick.
-No idea about the middle thing with three holes...
-Yup, you've got 3 sears there, but only 2 have trigger rods.
-the springs are mainsprings, I don't think they have a lot to do with velocity in a Mag, just with the bolt return. IDK where they come into play with a p-mag.
-The two metal cylinders that are identical may be on/off pins? maybe? IDK what they are exactly are.
-the big threaded piece in the last picture in the bottom right looks like the back cap that you use to adjust your velocity.
other than that, we'll have to wait on the automaggots. That's all I can ID.
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Posted 23 December 2008 - 02:41 PM
In the 2nd pic: the blue rubber washers are LvL 7 bolt bumpers. Again a waste if you are using LvL 10 parts. The triangular piece is called a foamie and is used to replace the one in the LvL 10 bolt in the event it blows out. 12 - 15 years ago AGD quit selling foamie bolts (different design) until the LvL 10 came out. That is a LvL 10 Foamie. The crooked plastic stick is a ball detent for the twist lock barrel.
3rd pic: The wavy washers are for the pump kit. Not too familiar with their placement, but they either go in front of, or in place of the bumper. You also appear to have a classic valve velocity adjustment screw and a tournament lock, lots of twist lock pins, and several AM/MM sears. The two springs are LvL 10 bolt springs.
4th Pic: close up of pic 3 tiny bits.
Here are the parts diagram for classic valves showing both LvL 7 and LvL 10 parts.
Item 13 is a lvl 7 powertube spacer.
Item 10 is the lvl 7 bumper. the lvl 10 bumper is clear.
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Posted 23 December 2008 - 06:19 PM
& the bolt bumpers are actually cut to fit inside the wave washers
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Posted 23 December 2008 - 06:40 PM
So I took it apart again and found out there is an upgraded bolt in there? Part 16 on the page plummer posted. It's made by A.N.S. and appears to have venturi holes in it. The strange bit is that there is what appears to be a cut up foamie glued into the middle of the holes.
The wave spring goes where the blue rubber washers go, is there any way to tell whether or not this has a lvlx?
Posted 23 December 2008 - 07:31 PM
The ANS bolt does have a small foamie, and has a tendency to blow out while shooting after a while. Not nearly as bad as the old AGD ones though.
Posted 26 December 2008 - 02:45 PM
Nice P-mag. The wave spring is what disables the bolt from being reset. Its what makes a pmag work.
Plumber pretty much covered everything pretty well.