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Posted 08 January 2006 - 05:39 PM

Yes, Ghillie does have a way with fooling the human eye into thinking that everything looks "normal." That is one of the reasons why I suggested that as a sniper it would be wise to own a ghillie suit. But one of the most important thing about owning that ghillie suit will be using it properly. If you were to move at the wrong moments, or hide in the wrong places, your ghillie will do nothing. I should also note that an experienced player who has seen a lot of ghillie snipers could pick up on a lump of brush as being "unnatural." Ghillie has its place, but it by no means will guarantee a snipers success.

EDIT: Ghillie is aso good for scaring small children!!

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Posted 08 January 2006 - 05:54 PM

Femur Breaker, on Jan 7 2006, 08:39 PM, said:

Wait a sec, yeah I know that sounded weird, but I was responding to somebody else about ghillie suits. I was saying that the advantage a sniper has on the field is the camo and NOT the gun. The point was that unlike traditional snipers who have guns that reach long distances and can be highly upgraded, a paintball sniper will not have any advantage as far as weapons are concerned. The thing a sniper needs to use is hiding skills, therefore you need to invest in some Ghillie. I agree that the gun does not make the sniper. You were just confused because I was responding to somebody elses reply. Hope this clears that up for you.

Also, when you take one sentence instead of the whole reply, you took it out of context, and now I look silly! Please quote the whole reply next time.

Its neither. Last week me and some of the guys i ball with were messing around in the woods 'ambushing' each other and i had camo shorts and a BDU jacket on. No ghillie and the cover is so-so and i did fine as far as I'm concerned. Then we played yesterday and it was the same set up. Got within 25ft after crawling through a small patch of thinned out dead grass and before that i was within 15ft of them when i took out the pointman, and they still didnt know where i was out, til i asked what teh situation was. Alright that kinda soudned lame but it was a 2vs2, long story short somone couldnt keep his grades up and we lost guys and the pointman got an Imp which we wanted to see if it'd hold up, so as far as i was concerned once the n00b(who was on my team) and the pointman were out i didnt care if i got out or not. Yea . . .
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Posted 08 January 2006 - 07:15 PM

The Ghillie makes a good Sniper Great, and a Great Sniper, Invisible. A great Sniper can be seen by the trained eye without a ghillie suit with ease. A Ghillie is NEEDED if you want to be the most effective sniper you can be

Sure you can sneak up on people without it, but the people obviously were not looking your way or where not looking properly when they DID look your way. Remember we like to see what we want to see, if we choose to believe that there isn't a sniper hidden in that clump of brush then we wont see one, but if we are SURE that there is one the Man will slowly start to be recognizable by our eyes.

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Posted 08 January 2006 - 07:19 PM

Funny, they must have had their lenses on the back of their heads. I'll be right back, gotta go fix those masks . . .

Theres no doubt they help, but they are far from needed.

Lemme repeat myself here. This was dead, thinned out grass. Meaning, it wasnt especially thick and what was left was thinned out. Its movement and sound that help more than contrast and your outline. He would fire, i would move. Get a strong gust(front moving in) i would move. They would talk or move, i would move.
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Posted 08 January 2006 - 07:21 PM

Haha, no offense to you Ghost, I KNOW from seeing pics and such as well as hearing that you are one of the best out there. It takes talent to become as good as you are and props for that one, but when you think in cases of your life and maximum efficiency they are a GREAT help and tool for any Sniper

Of course nothin is NEEDED in paintball except a marker with which to barrel tag people with. This doesnt mean you'll be effective without the things that we take for granted such as Paint and standard BDU's why not take advantage of the technology available to us. When your life is on the line. Choose the best :(

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Posted 08 January 2006 - 07:25 PM

Meh. What you hear may or maynot be the truth.

Now, with all of our cards lain on the table, lemme say i was trying to prove a point not argue, slight difference, not much though. Skill is the most important thing here and thats what people need to imbed into the young'uns head before they worry about anything else.
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Posted 08 January 2006 - 07:27 PM

Great post man. I'm also one of the "billion" newbs wanting to be a sniper. I've hunted deer and other animals successfully and hopefully some of that experience will help me out. I'm going paintballing this weekend and I'll be playing sniper for the first time since June.
I agree that some newbs don't listen to this kind of valuable information, but I've been reading every bit of info I could on this position.
Again, great post, and hopefully I put it all into good use.
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Posted 08 January 2006 - 07:31 PM

Oh I believe it when I hear from some of the other BEST'S in the sport :D

I guess im at fault though here, the newer ones SHOULD know that the Camoflauge or Gun doesn't make the Sniper, which If looked at wrong from my posts could read as what Im trying to get across by some which im not. My main points in arguing for the Ghillie's sake is for the experienced Snipers here, the ones that can actually call themesleves SNipers to read, and KNOW that the Ghillie is what will set them apart from others of like skill but without the proper camoflauge.

New players KNOW that its Skill and Training that will turn you into an effective weapon and pycholiogical terror NOT the Ghillie Suit and Gun

My apologies to anybody who took my posts the wrong way, they were intended for the more advanced Snipers among us that are believing that they can get by with some standard BDU's and expect to hold up against a well trained team that has their Playbook drilled and tattooed into their heads

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Posted 08 January 2006 - 07:48 PM

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Great post man. I'm also one of the "billion" newbs wanting to be a sniper. I've hunted deer and other animals successfully and hopefully some of that experience will help me out. I'm going paintballing this weekend and I'll be playing sniper for the first time since June.
I agree that some newbs don't listen to this kind of valuable information, but I've been reading every bit of info I could on this position.
Again, great post, and hopefully I put it all into good use. 


Thanks luke-inator, your kind words are kind of what I was hoping people would say, rather then straying from the original point of the topic like some. Thanks again.

While I do not mind the good hearted exchange of words going on here, I was really hoping that what I wrote would help people more then pit them against each other. Both of you have your merits. It all comes down to skill, but what good does a boatload of skill get you if you do not have the right camo. Think about animals in nature. Why do so many predators have their camoflauge? Why do so many that are preyed on have good eyesight? The tools that we use also decide whether we live or die, and there is no way to get around that. You can have all of the tools and use them wrong. You can also have all of the skill but no tools. One without the other and you end up a rotting corpse full of maggots in the animal kingdom. Paintball sniping is the same thing. When you stalk you must stay hidden, and when you are being stalked of course you are going to use yor eyes to not be preyed upon.

Now could we please get back to the original topic. You are both 50% right.

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Posted 08 January 2006 - 08:06 PM

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Great post man. I'm also one of the "billion" newbs wanting to be a sniper. I've hunted deer and other animals successfully and hopefully some of that experience will help me out. I'm going paintballing this weekend and I'll be playing sniper for the first time since June.
I agree that some newbs don't listen to this kind of valuable information, but I've been reading every bit of info I could on this position.
Again, great post, and hopefully I put it all into good use.


Thanks luke-inator, your kind words are kind of what I was hoping people would say, rather then straying from the original point of the topic like some. Thanks again.

While I do not mind the good hearted exchange of words going on here, I was really hoping that what I wrote would help people more then pit them against each other. Both of you have your merits. It all comes down to skill, but what good does a boatload of skill get you if you do not have the right camo. Think about animals in nature. Why do so many predators have their camoflauge? Why do so many that are preyed on have good eyesight? The tools that we use also decide whether we live or die, and there is no way to get around that. You can have all of the tools and use them wrong. You can also have all of the skill but no tools. One without the other and you end up a rotting corpse full of maggots in the animal kingdom. Paintball sniping is the same thing. When you stalk you must stay hidden, and when you are being stalked of course you are going to use yor eyes to not be preyed upon.

Now could we please get back to the original topic. You are both 50% right.

We already ''kissed and made up'' no reason to pry. In any case we were debating your points. It was on topic, for the most part.

Now, this is a game, not a fact of life. Notice all the things we do that in the army they would be considered risks. The mentality is different. Again, either way we were debating such 'tools'. Which is more important, the eagles eyes or talons? That kinda thing. Thanks for the concern though. ^_^
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Posted 08 January 2006 - 08:17 PM

I like a good consructive debate as well. That is why I was compelled to put in my two cents as well. In all reality, what you guys were saying is really good for people to read. If they read it through and don't skim it they will understand even better whether or not they want to be snipers. It is definitely not an easy game. I would like to take this opportunity to thank the both of you. After reading through this all again, the thread was actually even more what I had hoped. Thanks again.

BTW, your opinions mean a lot ghostinthewood. By reading your responses to things here in the sniper forum I have gathered that you know what you are talking about.
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Posted 08 January 2006 - 08:28 PM

That idea right there is kind of different. The role of sniper isnt so much more difficult as it is more different. Its more fighting your instincts than it is the enemy, however, for those who can do it its not very difficult. I myself, am one of our teams snipers. I've hunted and other things in my life have made me a very patient person so its esaier for to grasp the idea of hwo to do things, as far as a snieprs standpoint goes. Now one of my friends, who is one of the better daggers on our team and the best pointman has to have everything done this minute. He cannot sit still, he can rush into things and will improvise on the fly by instinction, you can tell he doesnt have to think about a lot of things. I tryed uusing him as my spotter one time, he couldnt do it. Now, i myself have to sit and think about things for a second. I will survey and conclude, he wings it. Similar in we improvise(focusing on one aspect here), but even at that we do it differently. There are a lot of variables that have to do with the position and other things. Yes, you may be able to hit a pop can from 50yrds, but can you think on the fly? How about resist your instincts to run, or find cover all the time. We're trying to specify too many things here, there are too many variables to say you have to do one thing or another. You also have to think of the different ways to do somthing. SUre you can wait an hour, but are you good enough to get around behind the enemy? Alright, sure you can sneak up on people but what if your on a c;iff and cant, are you able to take that 50yard shot? Theres nothing wrong with saying that its nice to have this or that, but dont specify things. See, even one of our best tools is argueabally needed. Look at all the people that have posted here, then look at how many agree 100%. I think that was more/less the point i was trying to get across earlier.

Some more of my thoughts . . . which i thought were only a penny, but i guess since oil prices went up it moved to 2 cents instead. :angry: Just teasing.
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Posted 08 January 2006 - 08:43 PM

That is very truthful. I had to read that post about 10 times.....seriously.... and it was all good advice. That's what makes sniping a challenge for me. Taking it all in, and trying to learn what makes people tick. Learning how thing are going to work around me instead of trying to make things happen myself. I have never had a problem sitting, and waiting. As a matter of fact that is all I did for three months in my wheelchair after I broke both my femurs. I conremplated where my life was going, and it was difficult. At this point in life I am very good at waiting. I am very good at taking things as they come as well. The position of sniper is the only thing I now consider playing for woodsball now. My whole life seems to revovle around waiting for thing to come to me since my accident in August. I can sit in a tree from sunup to sundown waiting for a deer to walk past. When the time does come for me to make a decision, I don't rush it. I have had way too much time to think about thing, so 2 minutes now seems like very little. I can see also that many of the people on these forums do not truly take patience very seriously. That was my main reason for this thread, people need to know if they are cut out for it. Thanks for the input ghostinthewood, I think I now know who to go to for sniper advice. Thanks again.

These are just some of the things I think alot, and while they are not aimed at anything in particular, I thought this was a good opportunity to share them.
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Posted 08 January 2006 - 10:32 PM

good post, definetly describes snipers.
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Posted 09 January 2006 - 01:12 PM

The whole newb sniper thing......

I've seen many players who come into this sport wanting to be a sniper, try it out and fail outright. After 3 or 4 times getting eliminated at point blank range, they get frustrated and move on. They either quit the sport of paintball outright, or conform to another position.

In no way am I calling myself a newb here, but I gave up on sniping. After about 2 years of getting kills by waiting for nervous walk-ons stumble upon my ambush, I got tired of being part of the hype. I find myself not even clearly fitting into a position anymore, I guess I'm a combo of all the positions(exept hammer).
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