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#1 User is offline   curtsenn 

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 10:10 PM

I'm 19 years old and I have officiated for about 2 years now. Lately the older players have been very negative towards my calls and have complained about the "kid ref." I know the field owner personally and he knows that I call everything honest and has no problem with it. The problem is that I do not know what to do in a situation where the adult will not listen to me. Please give me some advise.
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Posted 19 November 2006 - 10:15 PM

Calmly let them know that as a ref, you have final say, and final authority. If they have an issue with the reffing, invite them to talk to the management about it later, but on the field, your word is law

Remind them that having your authority be upheld is a matter of safety, and that all disputes should be taken off field to maintain this safety

This post has been edited by aqua_scummm: 19 November 2006 - 10:17 PM

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 11:06 PM

Exactly. I wouldnt see where anyone would have issue with a 19 year olds calls...

If they dont like your call, then stop the game and advise them to take it up with the field manager.
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Posted 19 November 2006 - 11:11 PM

Thats sounds pretty bad, I'm 16 and have never had anyone not respect a call or request I've made, mumble, yeah, but never flat out not listen.

I think the best way to tell them is the way it is, you're the boss on that field, and they do what they are told and if they've got a problem with it, nothing a good talking with the owner can't solve. Also, if the other refs are anygood at what they do, they should help you keep authority over the other players, regardless of the age of the ref.
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 10:06 AM

Carry a blank copy of the liability waiver/rules sheet...and show them the part you highlighted..."FIELD OFFICIALS HAVE THE FINAL SAY".....and remind them that they signed them so they agreed to abide by them and if they don't like it, they are free to leave.
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 05:50 PM

Just because they are older, doesn't mean they can't be a jerk. Dealing with people is a part of life. Be calm and professional and if they can't respect that, report them to management. That type of person will probably ruin their business, and they have a right to be aware of any problems on their field.
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 05:59 PM

or like Doc, you could use duct tape, taser, mallet, and A vest(isnt that what they use?)
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 06:00 PM

View Postdruidsdecendant, on Nov 20 2006, 09:06 AM, said:

Carry a blank copy of the liability waiver/rules sheet...and show them the part you highlighted..."FIELD OFFICIALS HAVE THE FINAL SAY".....and remind them that they signed them so they agreed to abide by them and if they don't like it, they are free to leave.

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 06:21 PM

View Postcurtsenn, on Nov 19 2006, 10:10 PM, said:

I'm 19 years old and I have officiated for about 2 years now. Lately the older players have been very negative towards my calls and have complained about the "kid ref." I know the field owner personally and he knows that I call everything honest and has no problem with it. The problem is that I do not know what to do in a situation where the adult will not listen to me. Please give me some advise.

Just point to your ref jersey. Refs get all kinds of crap in all sports, just kinda get used to it and get over it. :\
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 06:50 PM

View Postaqua_scummm, on Nov 20 2006, 12:15 AM, said:

Calmly let them know that as a ref, you have final say, and final authority. If they have an issue with the reffing, invite them to talk to the management about it later, but on the field, your word is law

Remind them that having your authority be upheld is a matter of safety, and that all disputes should be taken off field to maintain this safety


As long as you know you're making the best call and are confident in that ,aqua_scummm said it best.
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 08:19 PM

Here's the comic Doc had about this issue

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But on a serious note, I think using a waiver or sending them to the manager would be the best bet.
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Posted 21 November 2006 - 12:17 PM

I agree if they have a problem they need to leave the field and talk to the manager. Also all the refs on a field should back each other up. If the other refs come over and ask the person to take off the field and to the manager they get the point, be sure to radio it to the main base so they know what is happing and can be ready.
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Posted 21 November 2006 - 12:27 PM

im only 18 myself and i would like to become a ref and in a situation like that i would either shot them and put them out or Just call them out untill they understand that you are the Ref and you know best. Personally i hate rules but i would listen to people younger than me when it comes to this sport, anything else i would just laugh and call them and idiot or something.
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Posted 21 November 2006 - 03:34 PM

Never ever back down, or use the word, "uh" in a sentence. Know what you're going to say before you say it and say it with a bit of authority in your voice. They all might hear you, but it's up to you wether they listen to you or not, make sure if they don't that you make sure the feild manager or owner disciplines them immeadiately, or he has just comprimised you and you might as well be a stuffed dummy from then on.
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Posted 24 November 2006 - 09:15 AM

Im 14, so i get alot of problems. One time i guy ripped his mask of in the game while coming over and getting in my face to scream at me. All i did was tell him ive had seven years of playing experance, he signed a waiver that my call was final, and if he didnt put his mask on he woujd have to leave for the day, then i jammed my mask on his head stopped the game, and got his. Switched them, and told him to sit out.
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