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A5 side light mount How to make a permanent tactical light rail on your A5 Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   Lt.Col.Vortex 

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:17 PM

OK, I have been wanting to do this for quite some time now ever since I did it to my other A5, and it turned out pretty cool. This time around I'll be showing you all how to build/cut in a rail into the side of your A5.

WARNING: This is a "cut in mod". Meaning that this is a gun frame mod that will require you to permanently change the design and look of your marker.


Materials needed:

A measuring device that measures in MM.

Scotch tape.

A 5mm round chainsaw file( I think that most are 5mm). 2 files are recommended as they are some what brittle and will wear quickly, but 1 is fine.

A hack saw with a fine tooth blade. preferable one that is used to cut metal.

2 metal files, one regular flat one and (optional) triangle file.

NOTE: The internals should be removed to prevent shavings from entering the marker.



To start this project, you will first need to do some prep measuring and marking work. You will need to get the exact dimensions of a 7/8" picatinny rail .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picatinny_rail Here is a link to a very helpful page( click first picture for dimensions).

First you will want to get a level mark to work with. Take a strait edge( a ruler will do nicely) and draw a line on the face of the barrel port. Next you will need to draw a line 90 degrees and center of your level line. This is now the center of your marker and your reference line.( this is VERY hard to explain, so check out the pictures below for better understanding) Now you will want to mark the greatest distance of the rail onto your marker. The proper measurement is .835( +or- .005", it doesn't have to be exact..but close). Be extra careful to mark these two lines(one on each side of your center reference line), because if you are off, it will show when you put your light on. Once your rial lines are draws, mark another line 90 degrees of those two lines, and half way between them( again, reference the pictures). This line is your center line/center groove for your rail( this is what your center screw will set in).

Now that your marking is done, its time to start filing. But first, a safety tip. Put tape over your marker body to prevent you from scratching your marker when filing. Start first on your two side marks for the actual rail itself. File down as flat as possible, and be careful to keep is square with your marker. You will want to file almost to till you touch the body, your trying to go as deep as possible. And don't worry, you cant go deep enough to put a hole into your marker. Next take your triangle file and put a back cut into your rail( the part you just filed). This will prevent your light from being pulled off. If you do not have a triangle file, you can use a hack saw and just cut a groove into the side. All your trying to do is make it to where your mount cannot slide off.

Now to start on your center groove. I like to start the groove with a hack saw first, then use the round file( it just offers stability so you don't wounder much). You will need to go kinda deep with this one, but I recommend you only go until your groove touches your side rail marks. You can always come back adn fine tune your groove later if your mount dose not fit properly.

After you get that done, put on your mount and start to fine tune your rail. It may need some center groove filing to allow your mount to set down all the way. And at first it may be a little wobbly, this is ok. file lightly and constantly until you think its as stable as it can be. It may still be a tad loose, but thats understandable since its on a round surface. Simply torquing down your mount will eliminate any movement.

And thats about it. This may prove to be a pain to paint, but patients always prevails.
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:20 PM

Here I am marking the level line and the center reference line.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:21 PM

And here are is the rail lines.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:22 PM

Now I'm filing down the outer rail lines. Notice how close they are to the body.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:24 PM

Next I have used a triangle file/hack saw to cut the inside grooves. This will prevent the mount from coming off.

And I have also started the center groove line with the round file.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:25 PM

Now you file tune your rial to your mount. This may be a bit frustrating, but keep at it.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:28 PM

And now the finished product. I am using my project A5 for this. As you can see, I have a sight on it to. If you haven't seen how that is done, check out how http://forum.special...howtopic=184757

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:43 PM

Very cool! How solid was the mount?
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:48 PM

enough said?? :) :)

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 01:14 PM

Haha! I would say so!
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 06:46 PM

WELL DONE SIR!
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 07:05 PM

This is a great upgrade, easily screwed up if one is hasty.

Ive wondered for years why no one has ever aftermarked this or when the X7 came to be why they didnt, I always thought that this was the right way to flashlight mod, or if your big into APG and dont know better, laser site.

I assume this is recent, so what is the overall plan for other upgrades to this A5.
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Posted 04 September 2011 - 07:28 AM

I'm just doing tutorials with this A5 right now. I have done these to my other one, but didn't make how-to's on them...so I thought I'd share. I think I'll turn it into my new baby. I'm not sure what body style I'll go with yet. I rather like the MP looks, but who knows.

Actually I have a gatling gun idea that needs a ton of thought put behind it, so you guys might see that in the future. And I'm working on a sliding trigger for this thing, so hopefully I'll have that done soon.
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 02:09 PM

nice...is that a surefire?
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 06:57 PM

LOL, I freeking wish. No, its a crosman. It came with my Co2 pistol I got a few years ago. I dont think you can get it separate( it comes as kit with the gun). Its a really nice light, strong and relay bright.
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