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#1 User is offline   TGirouard 

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Post icon  Posted 24 November 2008 - 03:16 PM

Hey everyone~

I was looking into purchasing a new hopper, and barrel soon. I have an Invert Mini so
I want to keep the lightness and tightness. I was looking into the Pinokio, but I'm not
sure. And for a hopper I was looking into ultra lights, Freaks, and Death Sticks.

I play speedball, and I usually play front.

I'm open to any new ideas or subjection!



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Posted 24 November 2008 - 03:35 PM

Whats your budget like?
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 03:48 PM

VLocity (JR) and the Rotor are nice hoppers. Both light and they flat out work. Barrels are a bit more subjective. I've used a lot of J&J stuff over the years and havnt had a problem with them though.
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 04:39 PM

The Pinokio isn't for front players IMO. With the nose cone on and fully loaded it will ruin your hopes of keeping your mini Light and tight. Also, even though the hopper hasn’t got a larger surface area from the front, from the side there is a lot of extra surface that could take a hit. I've only played one true speedball game with those air bunkers and have never even seen a Pinokio in person, so my views on all of this aren't all that. However, I would think that being a front player you run the risk of getting hit from the side much greater than any of the other two positions. Even if it may be rare, IDK. Take what I've said however you like, I play mostly woodsball so I have very limited knowledge on speedball. Like I said, I've only played true speedball once.
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 05:17 PM

Depending on your situation, I would actually advise a rather unorthodox idea for a hopper. (I also play front with a mini). I really, really like the Tippmann SSL-200 loader for that application.

Now, it isn't a force feed loader, which will turn most players off. That said, it can easily keep up with my fingers (13bps ish), is very small, and very lightweight. Plus, for the price of a high end loader, you can grab two to have a spare in your gearbag if you get a ball break or something like that.

For the barrel, I don't see a huge need to upgrade, the stock barrel has worked fine for me. However, teammates of mine swear by the Deadlywind Carbon Fiber barrels with freak inserts.. amazingly light, easy to match bores, and very quiet.

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 07:38 PM

Vlocity and Ultralite barrel. That's the staple setup around here.

Rotors are nice, but heavier than the vlocity.

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 07:54 PM

Well. the pinokio Might be a great loader assuming you choose not to use the big nose cone, you may find that the wight becomes really offset if you have the big nose on it. The loader itself is great from what I have heard.

Ultralights ( Dye) are an extreamly common barrel and can be found in tons of shops. They are by far the more populare choice of many players. Personally I dont like the feel of them ( thats just me)

im going to skimp on the freaks ( smart parts) ... There older styled barrels so the new technology of todays barrels can be alot better.

Deathstixs ( paintball assasin). Both another Member and I have written our personal reviews on the deathstix barrels on PB review.
I use these barrel with my Automag and I love them to death ( pun not intended....well maybe it was.)
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I wrote the review for the 8/10. ( this was pre the sub catigory for series two)

my buddies are looking into Mini's if you tell me some quick thoughts on them it would be appreciated.

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:00 PM

I personally like the rotor and think it is going to be a great hopper, anything made by dye is usually pretty solid ( just don't buy the new model each year, they tend to hang onto designs for 3-4 years before a serious overhaul)


as for barrels, my mini barrel was amazing but if you feel the need to upgrade, the revolver is a pretty nice kit and I think they can be had cheap now (I may be wrong).


I like my freaks :( (I have two backs and fronts, I acquired one for free when a guy was cleaning out his gear bag at the local field handing out what he didn't want, the other came in a trade of guns)



@eskimo, the mini is a really great budget gun, it uses autococker threads meaning you can find almost any barrel under the sun, the gas through grip works real nice and I have had no consistency issues. The board and bolt are easy to access and remove and maintenance. The feedneck works, occasionally coming a bit loose, but tightens easily. The trigger leaves something to be desired (my favorite triggers are the wgp karnivor stock triggers if that gives you a bearing on what my tastes are in comparison to the mini), but with some tuning it works. The main drawback of the mini is also it's coolest feature, the gas through grip, because there are no upgrades for it, you are stuck with what it comes with. Quite frankly the mini needs an on/off attachment like the U.S. needs an economic solution.

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:18 PM

Thank you Mr. Dante
Although Im lost with your trigger example :(

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:24 PM

As much as this sounds weird, my C-series barrel from spec ops is lighter than my Dye UL. I am dead serious. I weighs almost nothing.
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:28 PM

View PostEskimo, on Nov 24 2008, 09:18 PM, said:

Thank you Mr. Dante
Although Im lost with your trigger example :(

for the most part, I like triggers with a bit of springiness to them (they feel like they are pushing back against my finger) The mini's trigger acts more like a mouse clicker.

basically just saying the trigger works for some and not for some.

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:34 PM

check out the empire prophecy. it only weighs one paintball more then the vlocity (less then an ounce) and you can change the size of it if you want to, just like then pinokio. it comes out in the first week of december.

as for a barrel, dont really worry about it. use the stock barrel, and save some money. there is a very small difference, besides weight, between barrels. buy good paint if you want to be more accurate.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 02:13 AM

This is the same dilema I'm in for Christmas.

Basically, for me, it comes down to a VLocity (XSV/Dynasty/Regular) for a hopper since my Torque is a little lacking in the capacity department.

And a Lapco Bigshot for my barrel. I've always like 1 piece barrels since they're a consistent bore throughout the length, and I've yet to try a Lapco barrel and see for myself their quality and accuracy.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 10:11 AM

I'd stay away from the XSV.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 01:23 PM

View PostWeigel21, on Nov 28 2008, 12:11 PM, said:

I'd stay away from the XSV.


Is it the volume problem they have? A friend of mine has an XSV and it sounds like a plane taking off. Probably twice as loud as my torque if not louder.
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