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#1 User is offline   Mena142 

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 07:10 PM

Its simply a pet peeve of mine, of needing to know how everything works...but here I have a few question, I hope an Airsmith could answer ...or someone with knowledge :)

Where do you get the Co2 from?
Do you simply get a big tank and dispense it to the clients or what?

What instruments are filling stations composed of?
Manometers, Pressure gauges, Scale...?

Aside of personal knowledge....the reason for these questions is that I pretend to set up a field in my local comunity and setting a fill station would come handy. Any support is apreciated :o (Answers :dodgy: )
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 07:22 PM

You pretend to set up a field?? I don't get it. :dodgy: Anyway-you can get CO2 in a bulk tank from your local gas supply co. Check the yellow pages. A CO2 fill station is just a valve that you connect to the bulk tank that allows you to fill the small tanks. You use a small digital scale to make sure you fill the small tank to the proper weight. You can buy the CO2 fill station and the small digital scale on most paintball web sites then just call the gas supply co to get the bulk tanks delivered and you're all set. Bulk CO2 is very inexpensive.

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 06:22 PM

What you need: a bulk tank, a fill station, a good electric scale.

Connect the tank and fill station. weigh the empty tank and either write it down or use the scale and set the weight to 0 while the tank is on the scale. Add co2 until the tank reaches the max weight and you're done. When you run out of co2 in the bulk tank head to a welding supply shop and get it filled up again, or trade it in for a new tank. It depends on the program the welding shop has.
You can make a fill station if you know what the heck you are doing, it's pretty dang easy, or you can buy one. I bought a 20 pound bulk tank at a garage sale for 5 bucks and a fill station online for 20. Not bad considering what you can save filling your own tanks...

That's basically what you do, don't use this for instructions, just for the general idea.

Hope that helps.
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 01:28 PM

Thanks for the feedback.....Any way I figured this out later doing some research..but many thanks any way!!!.
Now im trying to find how to fill my own bulk tanks(Pressurizing my own liquid Co2).
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 04:19 PM

What? You want to fill your own bulk CO2 tanks? From what? I think you're confused.
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 09:54 PM

You can't unless you have a lot of equipment. It would not make and sense to get the stuff needed unless you owned a field or welding shop. Just get your bulk tanks filled at a welding supply.
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Posted 15 August 2006 - 01:24 PM

^^^you can mount the tank to a wall upside down instead of buying a siphon tube.
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Posted 15 August 2006 - 01:40 PM

no, you can't. the constant exposure to liquid co2 can freeze the valves in place or damage the seals on the tank valve.
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Posted 15 August 2006 - 03:57 PM

Not to mention that a full bulk CO2 tank is HEAVY.
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Posted 16 August 2006 - 02:44 PM

My 20 pound tank weighs...20 pounds!!!

You can mount on upside down, when the co2 is like that it's not cold, it's only cold when it looses pressure...don't believe me, go grab your tank and feel it, then shoot real fast and feel it again..
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Posted 16 August 2006 - 05:45 PM

Liquid CO2 is -109* F.

An aluminum 20lb tank weighs close to 22.5 lbs empty.
A steel 20lb tank should weigh about 32 lbs empty.

Now add 20lbs of liquid co2.

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 06:51 PM

I went through the PTI classes and even though I've been playing 18 years and been filling tanks on my own since 1990, this place taught me stuff I should have known all along.
One of the things they stress most is gloves to get a good grip and twisting the neck of each bottle to be sure the valve is seated properly.
If you are filling your own tanks you should know already, but the course is geared toward someone who will be filling bottles for lots of strangers. So it's a good habit.

But you need a siphon-tube bulk tank, a 1-1/8" wrench, a fill station with vent, and a scale. A Co2 tank should be chilled to fill properly, usually a natural product of draining the tank.
A simplified version of the process:
1) Attach tank to be filled to ASA of fill station.
2) drain tank to be filled
3) put tank on a scale and zero it out (or record weight of empty tank)
4) open bulk tank and fill vessel to rated capacity
5) close bulk tank
6) drain air line and remove filled tank.

Like I said, simplified. Not "close this valve and open that one" But most of that is online already with a little research. And this is Co2 only, not a HPA set-up.

This is pretty much everything that was posted before, but you really need the siphon tube. Turning a bulk Co2 tank upside down to get the liquid may not be illegal where you are, but I'd want a cinderblock wall between me and it, or I won't get closer than fifty feet.
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