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#1 User is offline   SIEFKA 

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Post icon  Posted 28 June 2009 - 08:34 PM

For me then refs in paintball have been okay. They do a pretty good job but there could be some work with players or refs. This is basically a guide about how to handle bad calls or being a ref.

The Referee will be the one who starts the game, stops the game for paint checks, decides the issues that may arise and who ends the game. The Referee should have a whistle for signaling the start, stopping and ending of the game. As with all games, it does not pay to contradict the decisions of the referee, decisions by referees and judges are final and unarguable.


2. A player is out of the game if he is hit by a marking pellet (paintball) and it breaks on him, this includes his clothing, gun or equipment. It doesn't matter whether the player is shot by a opposing player or a teammate (friendly fire). When a player is marked she/he is to immediately call themselves "OUT or DEADMAN". She/he must then hold their gun over their head, continue to call out "OUT or DEADMAN" and leave the playing field by the shortest and safest route.

3. A player is not considered out of the game if she/he is struck by a marking pellet (paintball) and it does not break. A player is not considered out of the game if she/he is struck by a splatter from a marking pellet (paintball). Splatter is considered to be the spray or fragments from a marking pellet that has broken on an object such as a tree, bush or rock etc., close to the player. If a player calls herself/himself "OUT or DEADMAN", because they think that they have been hit by a marking pellet (paintball), she/he is immediately out of the game and must leave the playing field by the shortest and safest route. Even if the player discovers that they were not hit, after they make the call their out, and must leave the playing field at once.

4. If two or more players mark each other simultaneously, all must be eliminated. A referee will decide who is to be eliminated when two or more players are marked


5. If there is question as to whether a player has been marked, call for a "Paint Check", that's what the referee is for. When a Paint Check is called the game comes to a stop, all players remain where they are at until the referee clears the problem and restarts the game. Note also that during a Paint Check all players remain where they are when the Paint Check was called and by leaving that position during a Paint Check they can be called out by the referee or by a player reporting their movement to the referee.


6. Predetermine the length of the game. Most games run 30 to 60 minutes, with 45 minutes being the average. The Referee will be the one who keeps track of the time. By setting time limits you make for a more aggressive game. If no one wins, who cares, go on to the next game and try some new strategy. Have Rest periods between games. Predetermine their length and have the referee keep track of the time. The Rest Periods allow the players to refresh themselves, to talk over the game that they have just played, to reload ammunition and Co2 gas, and to clean or repair equipment.

7. If the game is a flag game, only one player is permitted to guard the flag at the station. If the guardian gets eliminated from the game, s/he leaves the flag at the point where s/he got shot.

8. A player is not allowed to move together with the barricades.

9. Whether "Dead Man Walking - DMW" is allowed or not needs to be predetermined by the teams. DMW is when a player, although not hit, walks alongside players who got shot and are walking out of the game field. This deception gives him/her the advantage to change his/her shelter or to get nearer to the rivals.

10. "Dead Man Silent" is when a player gets hit and walks out of the field. During this walk s/he is not allowed to speak to any of the players. A marked player is to walk out of the field and to report immediately to the referee for a paint check.

11. All paintballs used at the tournament must be purchased from the referee. No carry-on paintballs allowed. The game does not stop during this interaction. The referee leaves the paintballs to the player and walks away. The player runs the risk of getting hit while purchasing the paintballs.

12. Paintballs purchased cannot be reimbursed.

13. Every team has a captain. At the meeting, captains will receive any final instructions and written notice of rules. After the game, captains of both teams attend the calculation of the points done by the referee.

How to handle refs-

Refs can be very different some good some bad. Most of them are good. Some refs can slow games, or call bad calls. If a ref makes a bad call or something you don't like happens make either a suggestion or same politely something about it. No one is going to listen if you start to argue or raise your voice. Some fields have websites and you can put them there.

The main rule that I use is- All refs just want to have a nice day there, get paid, maybe play and have everything go smoothly- Take into consideration that's what you want to as a player, or that's what you would want as a ref. So for me I just treat them as good as you can. If there is a bad call don't get angry, when you're angry you can't think because it is almost like a gel that goes to the back of your head where your process and just shatters it. That how crimes and stuff you wouldn't want happen, making bad decisions. If you don't like the call walk off the field, and just calm down. Don't turn the sky blue cause you can either get complaints or worse. Just think about how could have done better what bunker could you have taken different or where could gone different. Just say nothing, then just do good the next round. If not then take a break. Eat some food, drink, talk with other players, watch games, and prepare for the next round.

This post has been edited by SIEFKA: 29 June 2009 - 06:21 AM

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 05:12 AM

Great post! I would suggest cleaning it up a little to make it an easier read. Other than that, I think it's sticky worthy.
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Posted 29 June 2009 - 06:16 AM

There I think that's good.

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 10:08 AM

I changed the name and pinned it. It's a good write up but you need to keep in mind that individual fields will have house rules or follow rules in accordance with a specific tourny format.
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Posted 29 June 2009 - 01:34 PM

Yeah this name is better, since I was just going for a general idea, and not so much tourney just like walk ons and some scenarios. Thanks for your help.
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Posted 30 June 2009 - 02:00 PM

As a ref for several years, a lot of this is off base...have you actually reffed before for an actual field? If so your list should look like this, in order of priority.


1. The field safety rules are understood, and all players are kept safe.(masks, chrono etc)
2. Make sure everyone playing has a good time. If they aren't, try your hardest to make sure they do.
3. Don't be afraid to make a call, and be active in the game. No one likes a lazy ref.


It seems as though a lot of this is what you WANT to see at fields. I'm not handing you a written copy of the rules, you should listen to the safety briefing. You don't buy your paint from me, you buy it from whoever is working the store up front, or at my field you bring your own if you want. I'm not stopping a game for a paint check...the only ones I really think are necessary is when someone sees the person they shot get marked, and they don't get out. I'll make paint checks on people if they call for them, but it's just as easy to ask the person next to you.


There's probably some other stuff I can comment on, but those stick out the most.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 07:53 PM

Stopping a game for a paint check is quite common at my arena. Often there is no one near me and sometimes I think I get tagged in a pod or my tank on the back of my vest. I will call for a paint check from a ref because I like to play clean. Often in my arena an enemy would hit me and not even know it. If I get a ref that refuses to halt the game for a paint check because I think I may be out then just about any hit I take in the back will not count and I will continue playing. It is the refs fault I am not playing a clean game, not mine.

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Posted 26 September 2009 - 12:59 PM

The field i go to a lot have player refs.. they basically get paid.. to be a "undercover" ref.. and if something happens they pull out their ID badge and take control of the situation.

they dont tell you about it at open games but they always say something at scenario games.. just to try and deter the dirty players from cheating...

its a good tactic..

all i can say is.... I WANT THAT JOB... lol but the closet field to me does not do that.
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 05:13 PM

I am gonna start reffing soon unfortunately my field is like 50 minutes away


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Posted 28 September 2009 - 05:28 PM

View PostSO45615, on Sep 26 2009, 03:59 PM, said:

The field i go to a lot have player refs.. they basically get paid.. to be a "undercover" ref.. and if something happens they pull out their ID badge and take control of the situation.

they dont tell you about it at open games but they always say something at scenario games.. just to try and deter the dirty players from cheating...

its a good tactic..

all i can say is.... I WANT THAT JOB... lol but the closet field to me does not do that.


Yeah where I play a lot of the refs are players (they are just banned from official tourneys, if you are a ref you cannot play, if you are a player you cannot ref). Usually when my team is at the arena the ref doesn't even bother coming down to the field unless it is a deathcard match. With no ref we pretty much play on the honor system. If someone yells paint check with no ref around everyone stops and the closest guy will walk over and check (doesn't matter which team). After we go back to places and start playing again.

That is why I love The Urban Warzone in Duncansville, PA (shameless plug). The place is run loose and everyone knows everyone else there. It is run like a big family and everyone looks out for everyone else. If someone is a "richard cranium" they are warned once then asked not to come back. Keeps out the bad apples and ensures everyone has a good time. If you are ever in central PA check it out. We had a player on the IUP speedball team out there sunday and he loved it.
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