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Posted 04 February 2011 - 11:11 AM

So what would need to be done for the RT unit to work on the Alpha Black?

Also I am a do it your self kind of person. So how hard would it and the cyclone be to instal?
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 11:23 AM

I bought mine used, so never had to install it. Not sure if you need to drill any holes or not...it may use an existing hole on the RIGHT side of the marker - it would be plugged on a stock 98 or Alpha Black (if it exists). I imagine it does. Well, the cyclone goes into that part, and I think you would just get the fitting below to hook up both to the powertube.

You will need this on top of the RT kit and the Cyclone for 98c: http://www.tacticalp...dapter_Kit.html

Don't quote me lol. If there's no drilling, it shouldn't be all that hard. The RT requires some tuning, I understand.
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 02:33 PM

Hmm...

Well cdrinkh20 the website said that it was needed on the old still 98.
I went ahead and emailed Tippmann about the cyclone and RT working together so we shall wat and see.
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 02:40 PM

You mean the Model 98?
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 03:16 PM

Yes the piece on the website is said to be for the old stile of the modal 98.
Don't know if it maters or not. I already understand that the Alpha Black is based on the modal 98. Not sure which one (costum, pro, platam, etc.)

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 03:21 PM

Model 98 came before the 98 custom. They are essentially the same, except for a couple minor internal differences. For example, the Model 98 would be missing the extra opening in the powertube for a cyclone add-on. Hence, you would need to drill + get another powertube. The 98 Custom, Platinum, etc. are all basically the same, and should all be equal to the Alpha Black.
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 03:43 PM

That makes sence.
Thanks for clearing that up!!
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 03:45 PM

The only issue i can see is with putting both the RT and the cyclone on the marker at the same time. The A5 was designed to put off excess air for the cyclone, so there should be ample. however, the alpha black was most likely not, and might have trouble reaching higher velocities (the cyclone/RT air comes from the firing portion of the air not the blowback portion). In any case, you should pick up a hammer spring set.
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 03:48 PM

Hay Benaiah were can I find one.

Also I found a J&J barrel on amazon for $36 Is that a good price on one?
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 06:30 PM

Ok i feel this desirves its own reply.

I emaild Tippman today and recived there email today;


My Message
I want to put the RT trigger and the Cyclone feeder on my Alpha Black. Is it possible for both and how? What extra gear would i need if any?

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You can only put the Cyclone as the RT is NOT compatible.


so i gess the RT is out.

hmm i wonder if the Firestorm crank would work
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 07:08 PM

the firestorm crank is awkward to use. and you cant switch back to a regular trigger quickly. To be honest, When i started playing i thought i would never use batteries either, but theyre really not a hassle at all. ive played in the rain and the snow and havent had any problems. An e-trigger with a double finger trigger will let you hit a ROF in the teens, and is relatively expensive. They just require an e-trigger, as your fingers arent powerful enough to trip the sear and move that fast. Honestly, i think that would be the best way to go.

But you want to know what i would really do in your situation? just use the money to play paintball, and save up for a mid-level marker. you dont have to but a fancy speedball marker, but something like the X-7 Phenom, or the BT TM series (TM-7 or TM-15). They will perform much better than your alpha black ever will, and thats straight out of the box.

As for the spring kit, most sites that sell paintball kits will have them. heres a link so you can tell what they look like:
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 07:21 PM

Hmm... we shall see.

Don’t really like the looks of the X-7, and i don’t know much about BT.

Joust to be sure the hammer spring is the spring behind the hammer bolt that "pushes" the paintball?



btw what E-grip would you guys recomend.
not that i am geting one anytime soon

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Posted 05 February 2011 - 03:15 PM

I bought a J&J on ebay and found it to increase my consistency dramatically over the stock barrel. Of course this was on a Spyder Compact, but essentially it is the same quality and etc as a typical Tippmann.
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Posted 05 February 2011 - 04:36 PM

View Postoldhunter, on 04 February 2011 - 07:21 PM, said:

Hmm... we shall see.

Donít really like the looks of the X-7, and i donít know much about BT.

Joust to be sure the hammer spring is the spring behind the hammer bolt that "pushes" the paintball?



btw what E-grip would you guys recomend.
not that i am geting one anytime soon


The hammer spring goes into the centre of the metal hammer behind the valve. The hammer is released by the sear so that it strikes the valve pin, releasing air.

The BT Tm7/15 are actually just Invert Minis with a "Milsim" shroud.
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Posted 05 February 2011 - 05:08 PM

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oldhunter, on 04 February 2011 - 07:21 PM, said:

Hmm... we shall see.

Donít really like the looks of the X-7, and i donít know much about BT.

Joust to be sure the hammer spring is the spring behind the hammer bolt that "pushes" the paintball?



btw what E-grip would you guys recomend.
not that i am geting one anytime soon



The hammer spring goes into the centre of the metal hammer behind the valve. The hammer is released by the sear so that it strikes the valve pin, releasing air.

The BT Tm7/15 are actually just Invert Minis with a "Milsim" shroud.

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Dont know much about them ether :(
all i know is Tippmann
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