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#16 User is offline   Chibbs 

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Posted 23 December 2005 - 06:19 PM

Dr. Wiggy, on Dec 12 2005, 01:07 AM, said:

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the only problems ive had with the stiffi is with crappy paint in crappy weather

Wouldn't ANY barrel go bad in those conditions???????? :P ????????


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Posted 23 December 2005 - 08:04 PM

mine has a .691 bore... very accurate... i used it in all conditions... almost never breaks balls.. except for all stars... marbalizers and evil work best..... im sving up for a sw!tch kit
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Posted 27 December 2005 - 01:51 AM

Craig Niland, on Dec 10 2005, 06:41 PM, said:

I'm stuck between my flatline, or just buying a straight barrel. How would a J&J compare to the Stiifi. $40 vs. $100. Wouldn't a barrel kit be more accuate? Paint to barrel bore match is the most important factor in accuracy. <_<

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Post icon  Posted 02 January 2006 - 07:43 PM

Alot of you guys are saying that you have a .691 cal St!ff! on your A-5.

Isn't the A-5 .68 cal, and don't you waste ALOT of air and accuracy with a .691 cal barel then? Or is it that the barrel is stepped and is .691 by the time it gets to the end of the barrel?

SOMEONE CLARIFY PLEASE!!! I really want to buy one but I'm also very picky and want to know everything there is to know about the barrel before i buy!!!!!

Oh, and why can't you use a fluffy swab in it?(does that include paper towels?) While i'm askin, can you clean it with hot water without damaging it? thats my favorite way to clean a barrel when i get home, rinse it out with hot water, then pass a papertowel through it to dry it. Voila, squeaky clean every time.

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Posted 02 January 2006 - 08:19 PM

Hotwater is fine to clean a Stiffi

There is a current thread titled " Battel Swab Rumor" in which the point of not using a battle swab on a Stiffi has been discussed, I am currently awaiting the final word Via contact at Site/MFG on that issue.

The Stiffi has a .691 bore, .68 is just a generalization for the public (actual sizes range from .687-.692, bigger or smaller but those are average) The reason for a .691 bore is due to some qaulity issues with the A5 and 98 along with the barrel adapter when a Stiffi barrel is used. SiteMFG received reports of paint breaking within the barrels on these models with a .689 bore size and found that was the issue. THey now only offer a smallest bore size of .691 for the A5 and 98.

The large bore size does not, and has not in my experiences, reduced or "wasted" air or harmed the overall performance of the barrel. There is another very indepth review on the Stiffi and DYE Boomstick barrel I did a little while ago which can be found here; Stiffi & Boomstick Review





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Posted 03 January 2006 - 05:15 AM

SWATORNOT- I recently just bought the stiffi mamba switch kit (blk-16") for my a5. (I had to get it in cocker threads and buy a barrel adapter) With the kit a little packet of how to use the kit and clean it was also with the barrel and four sizing breaches..... On one of the pages in said packet is stated clearly NOT TO USE ANY FIBER SQUEEGIES IN THIS BARREL. The reason is because the irritation caused by the fibers can slowly but surely unravel the carbon fiber of the barrel. You won't be able to see it at first but the damage will already be done. Once its been unraveled you might as well chuck it like you would an old blanket. Hope this helps. If people don't believe me i will take a picture of the page with the information on it if i have to. B)
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Posted 03 January 2006 - 02:03 PM

Thank you for the clarification SWATORNOT. Unfortuantly when i read your attatched thread it raised a whole new set of questions.

1: Now that the barrel is .691 and the gun is .68, do i have to use .691 cal paintballs, or will standard .68 balls work? I ask becuase i can't find calibers other than .68 ANYWHERE in town, not even at all the local fields.

2: Are the barrels as fragile or sensitive to scratches as that guy in the other thread claims? I know it sounds like an "Are you really sure" question but again, i gotta make sure or i'll loose sleep tonight. lol

3: If i order a 14in barrel for an A-5, do i need to buy an adapter for the A-5, will it come with one, or is it attached to the barrel for A-5's?

4: And again, do paper towels fall under things that will unravel the carbonfiber barrel?

Expect more questions as i come up with them. :me too:
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Posted 04 January 2006 - 12:54 AM

Echo-9, on Jan 3 2006, 02:03 PM, said:

Thank you for the clarification SWATORNOT. Unfortuantly when i read your attatched thread it raised a whole new set of questions.

1: Now that the barrel is .691 and the gun is .68, do i have to use .691 cal paintballs, or will standard .68 balls work? I ask becuase i can't find calibers other than .68 ANYWHERE in town, not even at all the local fields.

2: Are the barrels as fragile or sensitive to scratches as that guy in the other thread claims? I know it sounds like an "Are you really sure" question but again, i gotta make sure or i'll loose sleep tonight. lol

3: If i order a 14in barrel for an A-5, do i need to buy an adapter for the A-5, will it come with one, or is it attached to the barrel for A-5's?

4: And again, do paper towels fall under things that will unravel the carbonfiber barrel?

Expect more questions as i come up with them. :me too:

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#1- All paint is standardized as .68 caliber. The truth is the fine details are not found on the boxes of paint (Which I feel they should start doing), You can find the full size on a paintball size chart such as this one. You want to find a paint that matches your barrel's bore size the closest, take into consideration what you have readily available and make a choice. You can get by using the .689-.690 sized paint, even though it is smaller I have had good results even with that. I understand you not being able to find the high-quality stuff and have dealt with that many times myself, just improvise.


#2 & #4- The barrels are not really that fragile, it is just that SiteMFG/Stiffi recommends not using a Swab to clean the barrel because it can damage the inside of the barrel, specifically catch on the porting and potentially unravel an uncoating portion of the barrel. Simply get a rubber squegee and you are fine. As for paper towels, I have used them on my own along with hot water, just rinse it out then send a paper towel through it.

#3- No, you should not need to order a barrel adapter, they do make them in the Tippmann A-5 and 98 Threads, some stores may not carry them or have on on stock, but I suggest instead of adding an extra expense to just get one with the proper threads. If all else fails and you can't locate an A5 threaded barrel then go directly to SiteMFG and order one made with the right threads (Though you may pay more, it is direct from the manufacturer).


You can ask if "Am I really Sure" all you want, take it from me as a "Rep" of SiteMFG/Stiffi (Sponsored by them) that you will be happy with this barrel if maintained well and you use good paint. In your situation it will be hard, but don't give up on a fabulous product so easily.


P.S. In my sig is a link to another Stiffi Review with some comparisons to the DYE Boomstick as well....just for some reference.




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Posted 06 January 2006 - 08:37 PM

Are you on a commision from them too? lol

I think you pretty much sold me, now i just want to make sure i buy the right paint for it whenever the time comes to buy it.

I appreciate all the help. ;)
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Post icon  Posted 06 January 2006 - 09:12 PM

No problem. Yes, it is that good. :( :P :ph34r:

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 09:40 PM

Echo-9, on Jan 6 2006, 08:37 PM, said:

Are you on a commision from them too? lol

The team I ran back in Minnesota was (currently still) sponsored by SiteMFG...I have a bit of knowledge on the products and connections within the company I guess.


You should be pleased with the purchase :unsure:





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Posted 09 January 2006 - 07:13 PM

Dr. Wiggy & Swatornot:

You guys have so much info that its extrmely helpfull but at the same time too helpfull...i guess im juz very undecided..flat out what do u guys think is the best barrel for my a-5 and more importantly why??:

J&J 14 Ceramic or Stiffi???

puttin money aside i know da j&j is cheaper.

also whats the difference between the 2 piece barrels and a 1 piece?
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Post icon  Posted 10 January 2006 - 08:28 AM

I've gotten better proformace from my Stiffi than any other barrel but I've never had a 2 piece kit(never had a need for a barrel that long).


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Posted 10 January 2006 - 12:20 PM

Killa O, on Jan 9 2006, 07:13 PM, said:

Dr. Wiggy & Swatornot:

You guys have so much info that its extrmely helpfull but at the same time too helpfull...i guess im juz very undecided..flat out what do u guys think is the best barrel for my a-5 and more importantly why??:

J&J 14 Ceramic or Stiffi???

puttin money aside i know da j&j is cheaper.

also whats the difference between the 2 piece barrels and a 1 piece?

Well for the price range of the J&J Ceramic you cannot find a better barrel really. The J&J was one of my favorite barrels before I started using high end barrels.

If you want to start a "collection" of barrels the J&J is easy on the wallet and will give you some pretty good performance for the investment.

The Stiffi barrel and Switch Kit are just great barrels for the serious player. If you have the money for the high end gear, then by all means purchase it. Like I said before, I was thrilled with the J&J before I started using the high end barrels such as the Stiffi, Switch Kit; DYE Boomstick, UltraLite; Evil Pipe Kit; and Smart Parts All-American. The Smart Parts AA barrel was my step into the better barrels, 2-piece design and worked great. I kept trying out new barrels and stepping up more as I went through the selections, eventually ending my search at the Stiffi Switch Kit.


2-Piece barrels are pretty good because the backs are usually the "sizer" part of the barrel (The back is where the barrel's primary bore is). The front is simply there to guide for the accuracy part of the barrel. These are great barrels but, you need to be careful and not mess up the threads on either part of a two-piece barrel. That should in no way turn you off to them though, it's just simple care.

Barrel Kits are also a two-piece barrel (Obviously) and will be well worth money spent because you can match the paint-bore much better with a kit. They usually have backs or sizers with all of the common paint sizes and the option usually to purchase other sized backs or inserts if need be.


Overall should you have the funds to purchase a Stiffi to boot, you may want to look more into the Switch Kit for the benefit of matching paint-bore with different paints. The regular Stiffi is pretty good as well, but if you have the funds why stop at the entry level Stiffi?

Hopefully this all will give you some more insight to go from...



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Posted 10 January 2006 - 02:14 PM

Is it a good idea to get one along with your first paintball gun or should you start small? I figure if i skip all the others and cut straight to the top i'll save money in the long run.

I played at the local field last weekend and a few guys thought that A) They would rather get a DYE than a Stiffi and :D I shouldn't go for the top end stuff right away.

Then again these are tourny players who know their stuff, but also might be biased because of the gear they have.



OK, i'm not gonna lie, the way they described it, it downright sucks, one of them even claimed that a flatline would be better......go figure.....

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