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#1 User is offline   Matt 

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:01 PM

So, I am looking at building a mag, but need some help. I would like if someone could give me a complete parts list and suggestions on what to get for certain parts. The only parts I know about that are specific to automags is the body, frame, rail, and valve. What else am I missing?

For the body, I was thinking of getting a ULE body, since those take autococker threaded barrels correct? If so, I wont need a new barrel than. Plus, I love how they look :laugh:.

I was thinking of also a x-valve w/ lvl 10 bolt

Now for everything else, I have no idea what I want or need.
Would I need to buy all the screws seperatly, or do those usually come with the body/frame/rail?

I appriciate all the help. Thanks.

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:12 PM

i would get an x-valve with you level 10.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:13 PM

you mean an x-valve. Lvl 10 is a bolt also reccomended
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:13 PM

Yes, the ULE is Cocker threaded barrels.

The valve you're thinking of is the X-valve. The Level 10 is the anti-chop bolt.

After those two you need a frame and a rail, and probably a foregrip as well. The type of foregrip you need depends on your rail. Either standard Automag foregrips, or RT Pro style foregrips.

If you buy new, screws should be included. If used, just ask them. You'll also need your sear, which sometimes comes with the rail.

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:24 PM

Yeah, I think I ment x-valve with lvl 10.

Do rails usually come with bodies?

How many different options for frames are there?

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:27 PM

Lots. AGD Intelliframe (blade or double trigger, plus RPG triggers), RPG Triton, RPG Chimera, RPG Ultralight (milled out Intelliframe), all of which have a choice of 2 or 3 different RPG triggers, and Logic UMF are the common double-finger frames you see. The Chimera is 86* and takes Angel grips I believe, and the Triton I'm not sure of. Then there's also single finger frames, Benchmark made some, AGD has some, and a few others as well.

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:44 PM

How is the resale of automag parts?
Just looking on AGD's site, the parts brand new cost a good amount, so I am hoping will not be very good so I can get the parts for cheaper.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:51 PM

Cerberus innovations makes the coolest new-school frame imo.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread....rus+innovations

And no, bodies don't come with rails. There are different kinds of bodies and different kinds of rails. you will need to buy them separately. There are body and rail sets, like the deadly wind stuff.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:56 PM

Ah, Cerberus. That's the one I couldn't remember.

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 01:59 PM

That frame looks nice. How much do those cost?

Edit: just saw the price in the automags.org bst section.
And I think to save some money, I will do an xvalve with lvl 7.
Unless you guys think I should get the lvl 10. Is there really that much of a difference between the 2?

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:59 PM

New Xvalves come stock with the level 10 and there is a world of difference between the two. The level 7 is just a normal bolt but the level 10 is an anti chop bolt and when you have it setup working perfectly you will not chop paint I can't even get the bolt to break paint on purpose.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:03 PM

Find someone with a tuned Level 10 and someone with a Level 7. Put your finger in the breech of the Level 10'd Mag and fire. Notice how soft the bolt is. Now try that on the Level 7. When you remove your hand, you may notice a lack of fingertips... :P.

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:03 PM

I think I'll go with the lvl 10 than :P.

Wow, I just noticed that xvalves go for 275 brand new.
How much do they go for used?

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:08 PM

Yea. On an Xvalved Mag, it's assumed you'll be shooting fast, so a Level 10 is a really good idea :P. My Mag only has a Level 7 and Classic Valve, but next time I use it, it will be fed by a Torque. With a single trigger and a Classic Valve, I don't expect many chops :P. I do plan to get a few mods done to the Mag though, but not an Xvalve for quite some time. I'm considering an RT on/off to lighten the trigger pull, which also inconveniently makes shortstroking easier. And I'll also get Luke (Luke's Customs) to do the sear mod to it, which shortens the trigger but makes it heavier, and shortstroking therefore harder. Net gain is just a somewhat lighter and shorter trigger, hopefully. Add in a nice Triton or UMF or Cerberus frame of some kind, and that's going to be a very fast Classic Mag :P. I'll probably keep the rest of it the same. My foregrip, rail, and mainbody are all good as it is. I love my twistlock barrels, too ;).

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EDIT: Used Xvalve with Level 10 including parts is probably $200 or so, maybe a little more. I'm not quite sure since I haven't look that much into Xvalves.

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:13 PM

I think I was way underestimating the prices of Automag parts. I think it may be a while until I have the extra cash to put into building one that I want.
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