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#1 User is offline   BlackWolf214 

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 11:58 PM

Alright here is my problem, I want to go full auto but I can't settle on which marker to get. I already own a Tippmann A5 (stock trigger) I have witnessed first hand (and been on the receiving end) of the A5 e-grip. I am torn between the X-7 the SP8 and my trusty A5. Help me out here, which one should I get?
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 12:05 AM

My vote is A-5! Its time tested and battle proven.
tons of upgrades, and we all know it works for woodsball and speedball.
And you can make it look like this...
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 12:51 AM

Well, strictly of those three, the A-5 and X7 are both preferable over the SP8 in my opinion. And since you have the A-5 already (which will get horrible resale value) I would suggest just keeping it. The money that you would lose by making the switch could be going into upping your A-5 instead (e-grip for example).
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 10:14 AM

Why not just get an Ion since thats what the SP8 is?
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 10:21 PM

im sure you know, but I have to mention it anyhow, most fields dont allow full auto, so unless you play outlaw it is useless to you.

But if you want a high ROF go with a mid to high end electro, they have eyes to help prevent ball breakage and are designed to shoot paint at rediculous speeds, they are also made better(usually) so they will be more reliable.
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 11:59 PM

^^^Just to clarify, it's not the "electro" aspect that makes a gun more reliable. If anything, I'd say mechs are more reliable on average. Really though, even being high-end is no garauntee of reliability. The more complex a system gets, the more there is that can go wrong with it. (Plenty of high-ends are highly reliable, just not all of them).
I'm not trying to talk down high-end electros mind you. I'm just pointing out that a lack of reliability is no reason to avoid an A-5 or X7.

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 08:52 AM

View PostSilent-7, on Mar 1 2008, 11:59 PM, said:

^^^Just to clarify, it's not the "electro" aspect that makes a gun more reliable. If anything, I'd say mechs are more reliable on average. Really though, even being high-end is no garauntee of reliability. The more complex a system gets, the more there is that can go wrong with it. (Plenty of high-ends are highly reliable, just not all of them).
I'm not trying to talk down high-end electros mind you. I'm just pointing out that a lack of reliability is no reason to avoid an A-5 or X7.

Spoolies have 1 moving part and poppets have just as many as a Tippman or a Spyder minus sears and trigger mechanisms. Just because you actually have to oil somthing doesnt exactly make it less reliable. It just means you have to take care of it for once.
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 09:32 AM

For laying massive amounts of paint, I'd go with either a mid to high end electro or a pneumatic automag with an Xvalve. Out of your options though, I'd go with the A5 since you currently own it. Also run HPA on whatever marker you decide upon. Running CO2 will not end well.
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 07:34 PM

View Postghostinthewood, on Mar 2 2008, 09:52 AM, said:

Spoolies have 1 moving part and poppets have just as many as a Tippman or a Spyder minus sears and trigger mechanisms. Just because you actually have to oil somthing doesnt exactly make it less reliable. It just means you have to take care of it for once.

I think I tried to make a generalized statement there that isn't really possible to make without lots and lots of typing... or maybe I'm just bad with words.
Regardless, all I was trying to get across to BlackWolf was that he shouldn't get the impression that a low end is intrinsically unreliable.
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 06:00 AM

View Postgunhand, on Mar 1 2008, 11:21 PM, said:

im sure you know, but I have to mention it anyhow, most fields dont allow full auto, so unless you play outlaw it is useless to you.


Actually a field near me has a "scenario" day and allows all fire modes.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 09:26 AM

alright, I'm not going to go into the whole full auto issue more than, make sure you aren't going to light someone up just because you can't control your marker. (I've been on the business end and I'm trying not to go into a rant right now)

When it comes to low-end VS. mid-end/high end what it ususally comes down to is this:

1) do you like using your marker to nail things in when not playing a game?
2) are you lazy (be honest with yourself) and don't like to take care of things after a game?
3) do you play games underwater?
4) do you have to have a marker that 'looks like a real gun' (basically milsim)?
5) are you unable to read a manual/unable to ask people for help?
6) can you not get HPA fills at your local fields?

if you answered yes to 2 out of 5 of these questions then you should go out and buy yourself an e-griped tippmann. If you answer no to the following questions you should take your money and invest in a Marker of higher quality, my vote would go to a Mini, but then again I'm biast since I own one and have seen it perform against Tippmanns.

note: the above questions are ones that you have to be frank and honest with yourself about, and you can't blame me if your Tippmann stops working after using it to shingle a roof.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 06:26 PM

View PostBone37, on Feb 29 2008, 11:05 PM, said:

My vote is A-5! Its time tested and battle proven.
tons of upgrades, and we all know it works for woodsball and speedball.
And you can make it look like this...
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I almost forgot, this is one of my favorites...
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The X7 is an A5 which is a 98 which is a procarbine. Very few ACTUAL upgrades, Not the4 best for speedball but to each their own.

FYI, full auto is not allowed at most fields.
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 12:45 AM

View Postsuper_stalker, on Mar 3 2008, 07:26 PM, said:

The X7 is an A5 which is a 98 which is a procarbine. Very few ACTUAL upgrades, Not the4 best for speedball but to each their own.

FYI, full auto is not allowed at most fields.


If I wanted to do speedball/ tourneyball I do own an Angel, I could use that but I am going back to woodsball and scenario play. I have lost my interest in speedball. The full auto was for those days when the field has "scenario" days and does allow full auto on those days. After reading the above posts I will probably get an e-grip for my a5. My wife told me today she will kill me if I get another marker. :P (I own 5 already) With the e-grip I could set it to semi for rec play/ non "scenario" days. Thanks for the input guys.
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 11:41 AM

View PostBlackWolf214, on Mar 3 2008, 11:45 PM, said:

View Postsuper_stalker, on Mar 3 2008, 07:26 PM, said:

The X7 is an A5 which is a 98 which is a procarbine. Very few ACTUAL upgrades, Not the4 best for speedball but to each their own.

FYI, full auto is not allowed at most fields.


If I wanted to do speedball/ tourneyball I do own an Angel, I could use that but I am going back to woodsball and scenario play. I have lost my interest in speedball. The full auto was for those days when the field has "scenario" days and does allow full auto on those days. After reading the above posts I will probably get an e-grip for my a5. My wife told me today she will kill me if I get another marker. :laugh: (I own 5 already) With the e-grip I could set it to semi for rec play/ non "scenario" days. Thanks for the input guys.


Then why not just use the angel or one of your other markers and save the money/hassle, and stick to somthing your already familure with?
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 11:54 AM

View PostGalihad, on Mar 3 2008, 09:26 AM, said:

If you answer no to the following questions you should take your money and invest in a Marker of higher quality, my vote would go to a Mini, but then again I'm biast since I own one and have seen it perform against Tippmanns.


I'm just replying to this because I want people to know the danger about Invert Mini's. I was talking about the Mini's with my local pro shop and field owner and he told me NOT to buy it!!! So far he's had 3 people at his field that had Mini's and the bolt exploded out the barrel of the gun!!! No this is not a lie its totally true, I swear. Only one person was hurt after taking the bolt in a shoulder. After that he's banned all Mini's from his fields and none of his gun technicians are allowed to work on them. He's right now trying to get the company to recall all them. So do not get one! They have a manufacturing and design default and to use one is dangerous!!!!
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