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hot burning smoke grenade to cold burning theory. this is in saftey because is needs to be safe

#1 User is offline   nickanator8 

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 04:59 PM

ok, heres my idea: you take a hot burning smoke grenade (fireworks smoke bomb) and put it in a soda can by cutting the can open then resealing it somehow (sottering gun?) then you get the wic out of the mouth of the can and light it. the can contains any fire. it still heats up but wont burn anything. who thinks this will work?
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Posted 17 October 2007 - 06:52 PM

Flames will probably shoot out the top.
The can could catch stuff on fire
If you use homemade smoke grenades like I do, they could melt the can.
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Posted 17 October 2007 - 07:01 PM

View PostSpudCrushr, on Oct 17 2007, 06:52 PM, said:

Flames will probably shoot out the top.
The can could catch stuff on fire
If you use homemade smoke grenades like I do, they could melt the can.


This is the reason why people don't allow burning smoke gernades on their feilds, because it could cause a fire.
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Posted 18 October 2007 - 04:03 AM

yeah i read that in apg and had just bought some hot burning so i wanted to "convert" them. though i doubt just the heat generated would cause the ground to catch fire unless in dry grass.
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Posted 18 October 2007 - 07:25 AM

View Postnickanator8, on Oct 18 2007, 07:03 AM, said:

yeah i read that in apg and had just bought some hot burning so i wanted to "convert" them. though i doubt just the heat generated would cause the ground to catch fire unless in dry grass.


Well, yeah.. You aren't going to catch dirt on fire.

But pine needles go up easly. So does dry moss, dry grass, and straw.
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Posted 18 October 2007 - 10:00 AM

View PostSpudCrushr, on Oct 18 2007, 07:25 AM, said:

View Postnickanator8, on Oct 18 2007, 07:03 AM, said:

yeah i read that in apg and had just bought some hot burning so i wanted to "convert" them. though i doubt just the heat generated would cause the ground to catch fire unless in dry grass.


Well, yeah.. You aren't going to catch dirt on fire.

But pine needles go up easly. So does dry moss, dry grass, and straw.

or the camo of the guy laying in the dry grass
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Posted 18 October 2007 - 01:01 PM

^ yeah i remember that article... poor guy
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Posted 18 October 2007 - 01:18 PM

It ALMOST sounds like a good idea...but not quite. Not only could fire escape the can, but the can itself could become dangerously over-heated.
I dont have an issue with "hot smoke" being used in a carefully controlled way, but the problem here is that someone could think that its safer than it really is...underestimating the amount of heat one of those things actually puts out, and that could lead to a serious accident.
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Posted 18 October 2007 - 01:43 PM

Aluminum melts so easily when it comes into contact with burning KNO3 (which is in homemade smokes). I have tried using a soda can and the top of it blasted off and the can was in half. You are usually only safe with steel (like a soup can) or ceramic.
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Posted 07 November 2007 - 10:26 PM

You'll probably burn a hole through the can and then you still have flame coming out. Then next thing is that you can catch something on fire still. I don't know what the brush and grass is like in your area, but in mine you have pine needles, cheat grass, dry dead grass in the summer, etc. These will catch on fire easy and I doubt you want a grass/forest fire on your hands.
The only times I would EVER use smoke grenades is on dirt, concrete, asphault, etc.
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Posted 07 November 2007 - 10:41 PM

would dry ice work better? i don't think it's too expensive, just put it inside a bag inside a bottle, open the bag, unscrew the lid, throw the bottle. smoke, no flame...just don't touch the dry ice with bare skin.

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ah crap...this stuff doesn't rise...all you'd get would be few feet deep, only way to move thru it would be crawling...

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Posted 07 November 2007 - 11:25 PM

View Postthebostinian, on Nov 7 2007, 11:41 PM, said:

would dry ice work better? i don't think it's too expensive, just put it inside a bag inside a bottle, open the bag, unscrew the lid, throw the bottle. smoke, no flame...just don't touch the dry ice with bare skin.



I'll take a hot burning open flame smoke grenade over that on the field.

Dry ice is constantly sublimating to its gas state. Where is the problem you may ask? When you're carrying it in that bottle, it's sublimating inside that bottle. Without anyplace to escape, the gas build up will skyrocket the internal pressure in that bottle until, you guessed it, the bottle can't take it anymore.

You'ld be walking around with a time bomb, and I don't want to be near you when it goes off.
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Posted 08 November 2007 - 01:48 AM

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Posted 08 November 2007 - 07:33 AM

View PostThalion, on Nov 8 2007, 01:25 AM, said:

View Postthebostinian, on Nov 7 2007, 11:41 PM, said:

would dry ice work better? i don't think it's too expensive, just put it inside a bag inside a bottle, open the bag, unscrew the lid, throw the bottle. smoke, no flame...just don't touch the dry ice with bare skin.



I'll take a hot burning open flame smoke grenade over that on the field.

Dry ice is constantly sublimating to its gas state. Where is the problem you may ask? When you're carrying it in that bottle, it's sublimating inside that bottle. Without anyplace to escape, the gas build up will skyrocket the internal pressure in that bottle until, you guessed it, the bottle can't take it anymore.

You'ld be walking around with a time bomb, and I don't want to be near you when it goes off.


yeah i forgot about the pressure issue (smacks self in head). stupid me.

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