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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:30 PM

View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 03:00 PM, said:

I say hell yeah to Obama winning the Nobel.

How bout explaining why? I'd like to know, before I decide for myself why you'd say that.
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:36 PM

View PostVeritech Squad, on Oct 9 2009, 05:30 PM, said:

View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 03:00 PM, said:

I say hell yeah to Obama winning the Nobel.

How bout explaining why? I'd like to know, before I decide for myself why you'd say that.




Well for one he ended the Iraq war, that in its self deserves a Nobel. And oh yeah don't forget the stimulus package.

And countless other things.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:43 PM

View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 03:36 PM, said:

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View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 03:00 PM, said:

I say hell yeah to Obama winning the Nobel.

How bout explaining why? I'd like to know, before I decide for myself why you'd say that.

And countless other things.

If they're so countless, then you wouldn't mind explaining some of them, would you?
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:44 PM

View PostVeritech Squad, on Oct 9 2009, 05:43 PM, said:

View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 03:36 PM, said:

View PostVeritech Squad, on Oct 9 2009, 05:30 PM, said:

View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 03:00 PM, said:

I say hell yeah to Obama winning the Nobel.

How bout explaining why? I'd like to know, before I decide for myself why you'd say that.

And countless other things.

If they're so countless, then you wouldn't mind explaining some of them, would you?



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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:47 PM

View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 04:36 PM, said:

Well for one he ended the Iraq war.

lol he didnt...our Soldiers did....
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:58 PM

View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 06:36 PM, said:

View PostVeritech Squad, on Oct 9 2009, 05:30 PM, said:

View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 03:00 PM, said:

I say hell yeah to Obama winning the Nobel.

How bout explaining why? I'd like to know, before I decide for myself why you'd say that.


Well for one he ended the Iraq war, that in its self deserves a Nobel. And oh yeah don't forget the stimulus package.

And countless other things.



And he's a brother, therefore he can do no wrong, right?

Yeah, I said it. Sue me for racism. But when a black candidate gets 90+% of the black vote, and blacks suddenly start saying "We need to follow the President just because he is the President." And that "All this criticism of President Obama is racist and dangerous" when they were silent during the Bush years, you better believe there is a racial component at play, in favor of Obama. Bush was subjected to the same treatment Obama has gotten, if not worse, but where were the Concerned Citizens for Civility? Where?

Oh right, they were the ones lobbing the cow pies. :rolleyes:

Barack Obama has not ended the Iraq War, oh not by a long shot. I am of the opinion of Thomas Ricks, author of The Gamble:

"In other words, the events for which the Iraq War will be remembered probably have not yet happened."

Even after the deadline, 50,000 or so U.S. military personnel will remain in Iraq, if I remember correctly. If I am wrong, someone please correct me. You tell those soldiers who remain behind that the war is over.

As Robin of Loxley would say: "It is never over, Gisbon."

As for the stimulus, it hasn't worked. Dana Perino:

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The administration defends today's higher unemployment rate by saying the stimulus hasn't been given enough time to work yet, and that only 14 percent of the money has been spent. If that's the case, then how could it also be true that the stimulus saved us from economic disaster? And if only 14 percent has been spent and it's worked so well, could we get the 86 percent back? When Vice President Biden said that never in his wildest dreams would he have believed the stimulus would have worked as well as it has, I expected some collective eyebrow raising from the press. There wasn't much. And now there's more talk of a third stimulus. Ahem, if only 14 percent of the last stimulus has been spent, and it's working better than the VP's wildest dreams, surely we don't need another stimulus, right?

Is it me, or is someone trying to have it both ways? These Jedi mind games are starting to get to me.




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Posted 09 October 2009 - 05:16 PM

View PostThalion, on Oct 9 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

View PostI.K.E., on Oct 9 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

It can't just be rhetoric, it now will require him to actually find some PROGRESS, or it hurts his credibility.


What credibility? :nododgy:

IKE, I do agree with you on one key point though -- this is going to hurt our soldiers over in Afghanistan. No doubt about it.


Just because he has no credibility with YOU does not mean he has NO credibility at all. :P

Besides, he obviously has SOME credibility in the world or he never would have won the Nobel Prize. Sure, they make some bad choices, obviously, but hey, they didn't pick Epic now did they? :laugh:

Anyhow, any credibility he has on the world stage is now in jeopardy, as well as any additional support from other nations for the war in Afghanistan. There may be little enough of that now, but any is better than none. Soon enough we'll be fighting in Afghanistan alone, and we won't even send enough to get the job done.

EDIT: WTF Outlaw? Ended the war in Iraq? Since when? Last I checked we still have thousands of guys over there, and we will have for quite some time. Further, the country still experiences bombings, and so forth.

Is it winding down? Sure it is. I'll give you that. But that is not a credit to Obama. No way. He did NOTHING to affect the war in Iraq. Not one thing. To his credit, BUSH ended that war by sending more troops, trusting his generals, and thereby creating a calm that has helped create a far more secure, albeit incomplete, and stable country. Are our troops scheduled to come home? Yep. But no credit is due to Obama for that accomplishment.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 05:36 PM

You guys know I shoulda won.
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 05:38 PM

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You guys know I shoulda won.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 06:07 PM

View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 05:36 PM, said:

View PostVeritech Squad, on Oct 9 2009, 05:30 PM, said:

View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 03:00 PM, said:

I say hell yeah to Obama winning the Nobel.

How bout explaining why? I'd like to know, before I decide for myself why you'd say that.




Well for one he ended the Iraq war, that in its self deserves a Nobel. And oh yeah don't forget the stimulus package.

And countless other things.



Um...

We're still in Iraq. It's not over. Afghanistan just gets the news coverage because it's worse right now.

Which is the same for the end of the Bush administration...

The war isn't over, and if they're "countless" go ahead and come up with something specific.
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 07:55 PM

View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 05:36 PM, said:

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View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 03:00 PM, said:

I say hell yeah to Obama winning the Nobel.

How bout explaining why? I'd like to know, before I decide for myself why you'd say that.




Well for one he ended the Iraq war, that in its self deserves a Nobel. And oh yeah don't forget the stimulus package.

And countless other things.

Lawl, he ended the war in Iraq? Really? Why is it that my dad and other soldiers are still there then? Also, just because you (supposedly) end a war doesn't mean you should win a Nobel peace prize, there are tons of presidents that have done that. Where are there medals?
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 09:00 PM

He deserved to win it for two very large accomplishments: jack and squat.
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 09:17 PM

Here's that list I promised you guys.


3/18/8 – Obama caught world-wide attention for his moving speech on race relations

7/24/8 - Obama lays the foundation for a new era of international relations and began inspiring renewed hope in American leadership during his campaign speech in Berlin

11/6/8 – Obama’s victory was hailed as a promise of hope for the world.

12/1/8 – Obama began plans to restore U.N. ambassador to cabinet rank.

1/22/9 - Appointed a Special Envoy for Middle East peace

1/22/9 – Ordered the closing of Guantanamo Bay

1/22/9 – Ordered comprehensive review of detention policies

1/22/9 – Prohibited use of torture

1/22/9 - Signed an executive order to close CIA secret prisons

1/23/9 – Lifted “Global Gag Rule” on international health groups

1/26/9 – Began to address climate change by increasing fuel standards for automobiles

1/26/9 – Appointed Special Envoy for Climate Change

1/27/9 - Signs Lily Ledbetter “Fair Pay” Act

2/1/9 – Expanded healthcare for children by signing SCHIP

2/5/9 - Again addressed energy conservation by increasing standards for appliances.

2/24/9 – Directed almost $1 billion for prevention and wellness to improve America’s health

2/25/9 - Initiated international efforts to reduce mercury emissions worldwide

2/27/9 – Committed to responsibly ending the war in Iraq

4/1/9 – Agreed to negotiation of a new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty with Russia.

4/1/9 – Enhanced U.S. – China relations

4/2/9 - Led global response to the economic crisis through the G20, obtaining commitments of $1.1 trillion to safeguard the world’s most vulnerable economies

4/4/9 - Renewed dialog with NATO and other key allies

4/5/9 – Announced new strategy to responsible address international nuclear proliferation 4/13/9 – Began easing tension with Cuba through new policy stance

4/17/9 - Secured $5 billion in aid commitments "to bolster Pakistan's economy and help it fight terror and Islamic radicalism"

4/22/9 - Developed the renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents.

5/8/9 – Proposed International Affaires budget that included funds to create a civilian response corps -- teams of civilian experts in rule of law, policing, transitional governance, economics, engineering, and other areas critical to helping rebuild war-torn societies; Provide $40 million for a "stabilization bridge fund," which would provide rapid response funds for the State Department to help stabilize a crisis situation.

6/4/9 - Gave historic address to the Muslim World in Cairo - "American is not at war with Islam" Foreign affairs experts insist that Obama's engagement with the Muslim world has been remarkable. "He has been able to dramatically change America's image in that region"

8/4/9 - Used DIPLOMACY to free 2 American journalists from a North Korea prison

9/18/9 - De-escalation of nuclear tension through repurposing of missile defense prompting Russia to withdraw its missile plan.
Source(s):
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View PostAshrak, on Oct 9 2009, 05:58 PM, said:

View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 06:36 PM, said:

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View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 03:00 PM, said:

I say hell yeah to Obama winning the Nobel.

How bout explaining why? I'd like to know, before I decide for myself why you'd say that.


Well for one he ended the Iraq war, that in its self deserves a Nobel. And oh yeah don't forget the stimulus package.

And countless other things.



And he's a brother, therefore he can do no wrong, right?

Yeah, I said it. Sue me for racism. But when a black candidate gets 90+% of the black vote, and blacks suddenly start saying "We need to follow the President just because he is the President." And that "All this criticism of President Obama is racist and dangerous" when they were silent during the Bush years, you better believe there is a racial component at play, in favor of Obama. Bush was subjected to the same treatment Obama has gotten, if not worse, but where were the Concerned Citizens for Civility? Where?




Ashrak why is it that everytime I say something positive about Obama you have to bring race into the argument?
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 09:23 PM

View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 11:17 PM, said:

Here's that list I promised you guys.


3/18/8 – Obama caught world-wide attention for his moving speech on race relations

7/24/8 - Obama lays the foundation for a new era of international relations and began inspiring renewed hope in American leadership during his campaign speech in Berlin

11/6/8 – Obama’s victory was hailed as a promise of hope for the world.

12/1/8 – Obama began plans to restore U.N. ambassador to cabinet rank.

1/22/9 - Appointed a Special Envoy for Middle East peace

1/22/9 – Ordered the closing of Guantanamo Bay

1/22/9 – Ordered comprehensive review of detention policies

1/22/9 – Prohibited use of torture

1/22/9 - Signed an executive order to close CIA secret prisons

1/23/9 – Lifted “Global Gag Rule” on international health groups

1/26/9 – Began to address climate change by increasing fuel standards for automobiles

1/26/9 – Appointed Special Envoy for Climate Change

1/27/9 - Signs Lily Ledbetter “Fair Pay” Act

2/1/9 – Expanded healthcare for children by signing SCHIP

2/5/9 - Again addressed energy conservation by increasing standards for appliances.

2/24/9 – Directed almost $1 billion for prevention and wellness to improve America’s health

2/25/9 - Initiated international efforts to reduce mercury emissions worldwide

2/27/9 – Committed to responsibly ending the war in Iraq

4/1/9 – Agreed to negotiation of a new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty with Russia.

4/1/9 – Enhanced U.S. – China relations

4/2/9 - Led global response to the economic crisis through the G20, obtaining commitments of $1.1 trillion to safeguard the world’s most vulnerable economies

4/4/9 - Renewed dialog with NATO and other key allies

4/5/9 – Announced new strategy to responsible address international nuclear proliferation 4/13/9 – Began easing tension with Cuba through new policy stance

4/17/9 - Secured $5 billion in aid commitments "to bolster Pakistan's economy and help it fight terror and Islamic radicalism"

4/22/9 - Developed the renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents.

5/8/9 – Proposed International Affaires budget that included funds to create a civilian response corps -- teams of civilian experts in rule of law, policing, transitional governance, economics, engineering, and other areas critical to helping rebuild war-torn societies; Provide $40 million for a "stabilization bridge fund," which would provide rapid response funds for the State Department to help stabilize a crisis situation.

6/4/9 - Gave historic address to the Muslim World in Cairo - "American is not at war with Islam" Foreign affairs experts insist that Obama's engagement with the Muslim world has been remarkable. "He has been able to dramatically change America's image in that region"

8/4/9 - Used DIPLOMACY to free 2 American journalists from a North Korea prison

9/18/9 - De-escalation of nuclear tension through repurposing of missile defense prompting Russia to withdraw its missile plan.
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Pretty much all of those are normal things a president does, why does that earn him a Nobel Peace Prize?

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View Postoutlaw-master, on Oct 9 2009, 03:00 PM, said:

I say hell yeah to Obama winning the Nobel.

How bout explaining why? I'd like to know, before I decide for myself why you'd say that.


Well for one he ended the Iraq war, that in its self deserves a Nobel. And oh yeah don't forget the stimulus package.

And countless other things.



And he's a brother, therefore he can do no wrong, right?

Yeah, I said it. Sue me for racism. But when a black candidate gets 90+% of the black vote, and blacks suddenly start saying "We need to follow the President just because he is the President." And that "All this criticism of President Obama is racist and dangerous" when they were silent during the Bush years, you better believe there is a racial component at play, in favor of Obama. Bush was subjected to the same treatment Obama has gotten, if not worse, but where were the Concerned Citizens for Civility? Where?




Ashrak why is it that everytime I say something positive about Obama you have to bring race into the argument?

Why is it that every time anyone says anything about Obama race is brought up? You even did it just before this quote.
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