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#1 User is offline   VORTEX 

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Posted 21 December 2008 - 12:25 PM

I'm creating a segment on the show about the Phantom. This seems like an active group of avid users so I wanted to ask for your input.

1. What is the bore size of your Phantom's stock barrel?
2. What brand paint works best for you in your Phantom's stock barrel?
3. What barrel (brand/length) do you use with your Phantom to get the best performance?
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 12:59 PM

The only thing I could help you with on that part is the fact that a lot of users use the stock barrel with detent rings. The only reason really for them to upgrade barrels is to get a kit to prevent roll outs, as the stock barrel has amazing accuracy. Many players get their stock barrel bored out to put freak inserts in to prevent roll outs.
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 01:31 PM

I believe the stock barrel is .689

Whatever you put through it shoots nicely. I personally use Karnage paint. If you're into getting a specifc brand name I've heard many like Draxxus, Marballizers, and All Star.

The stock barrel works excellently. There isn't any difference in performance between the different lengths (6''-14'') The standard 11'' is generally the most air efficient, but it's most about having a length you are comfortable with. I've used a Palmer's brass barrel which was a bit more quiet due to the extra porting, but shot about the same. It was also extremely heavy on a marker as light as The Phantom. The Phantom has one of the most highly regarded stock barrels. It came from a time era when people didn't buy into aftermarket barrels. I don't see a need to change it unless you don't like dealing with detent rings when using smaller paint.
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 01:35 PM

1. not sure i remember
2. any premium quality paint
3. Stock barrel FTW
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 01:36 PM

Dude i love your show, I really like Visible Impact it is a close cousin of Recon balls, they are sold at Walmart, but if you check the box; they are manufactered by Draxxus so they are nice quality, rarely get breaks. Also Python kits are nice, along with detent rings ( i would purchase several, they tend to break). I like the stock Phantom barrel, they are very high quality, you can also get them bored out to fit freak inserts which makes them amazing.
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 01:48 PM

1. .691
2. RPS Marbalizers
3. Stock CCI 11" used w/ detent rings

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Posted 21 December 2008 - 01:53 PM

if you ever decide to do something on snipers, let us know too. There's a few of us that know a ton about em. oh that and you should do one on old school nelsons or sheridans.
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 01:56 PM

1. What is the bore size of your Phantom's stock barrel?

The stock Phantom bore size is .691

2. What brand paint works best for you in your Phantom's stock barrel?

Draxxus, Marballizers, and All Star with Marbalizers being my favorite. Its important to use high quality paint with consistent size and roundness.

3. What barrel (brand/length) do you use with your Phantom to get the best performance?

The CCI 11" stock barrel with detent rings is amazing. It makes you feel like a fool when you spend hundreds of dollars on barrel just to find out the stock one is about as good as it gets. The 12" DYE aluminum or having your stock barrel bored for freak inserts also work very well in my opinion

If you would like anymore information I suggest perusing the PHOG (phantom owners group). Here is a link to the FAQ incase you need it
http://idriders.com/...opic,520.0.html
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 02:11 PM

1 i believe it's .691
2 I really like Nelson Nelsplat (blue specifically)
3 the CCI 11" rocks
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 02:35 PM

PMI Premiums, great paint that matches well usually. 11" CCI, or SM-1 kit. Both are amazingly accurate, but the kit is a lot quieter.
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 03:24 PM

Wow- you guys are great! I appreciate the tips and details.

View PostSide-Swipe, on Dec 21 2008, 01:36 PM, said:

Dude i love your show...

Thanks! Glad you're listening. Stay tuned for great stuff in '09.

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If you would like anymore information I suggest perusing the PHOG (phantom owners group). Here is a link to the FAQ incase you need it
http://idriders.com/...opic,520.0.html

The PhOG is amazing -- thanks for that link. It's going in the show for sure.
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Posted 21 December 2008 - 06:14 PM

I have a 6" stock barrel on my phantom, and CCI detent rings which work perfectly. Small, compact, and no noticable difference in distance acheivable while still accurate. It's the most accurate barrel Ive used, and i've used a lot of them. I've never bothered to check the bore size, but it doesn't really seem to matter (everything shoots great through it). That said, I refuse to shoot anything but Marbs through it when possible. Simply because marbs always seem to fly straight and are never dimpled. I've also never had a marb break in the barrel, and I've used it in 20 degree/raining weather.

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Posted 21 December 2008 - 07:35 PM

I came in ready to jump in, but seems we've got all the bases covered.

I personally use the stock barrel (.691), with whatever paint I can find fresh. For everyday woodsball, I like RECON paint or Visible Impact, as long as it's fresh.

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Posted 21 December 2008 - 09:03 PM

View PostBecc, on Dec 21 2008, 07:14 PM, said:

I have a 6" stock barrel on my phantom, and CCI detent rings which work perfectly. Small, compact, and no noticable difference in distance acheivable while still accurate. It's the most accurate barrel Ive used, and i've used a lot of them. I've never bothered to check the bore size, but it doesn't really seem to matter (everything shoots great through it). That said, I refuse to shoot anything but Marbs through it when possible. Simply because marbs always seem to fly straight and are never dimpled. I've also never had a marb break in the barrel, and I've used it in 20 degree/raining weather.


Marbs are like woodsball paint, they have a very thick shell. When you shoot in the woods, they have a tendency of clearing through brush without breaking, sometime clipping twigs.
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Posted 22 December 2008 - 06:15 AM

For real detail on the Phantom, I would Call Mike at CCI. He has given me Measurments over the yrs. He's a nice guy and the real expert on the Phantom. He will not hesitate to help you out.
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