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#1 User is offline   kirtar 

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 01:10 PM

Right now I'm in between buying a 98 custom or SP-1. The thing is that I'm somewhat wary of electronic (partially because I hate 9 volt batteries), but it seems that the SP-1 is probably a bit better. Other than asking for suggestions (budget on marker is <$200, preferably less than $175), I have a few questions about the SP-1.

It's a low pressure marker, but can it take high pressure tanks or only low (at this point I'm guessing either)?
What barrel threading does the SP-1 have?
About how long does the battery last (if this is long enough I won't care as much about buying the 9 volts)?
Is it possible to add a double trigger, or does the trigger guard not come off?

Right now my opinions of the two are as follows:

98 custom:
Purely mechanical, won't have to worry about batteries
-Mechanics may mess up
Cheaper
-Not as many features
More accessories available (?)
Common so it is likely somebody can fix it

SP-1
Electronic, light trigger pull, good/decent RoF
-Have to buy batteries, potential water problems?
A little more expensive
-More features (burst, full auto, can replace board, etc)
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Posted 14 June 2009 - 02:52 PM

View Postkirtar, on Jun 14 2009, 03:10 PM, said:

Right now I'm in between buying a 98 custom or SP-1. The thing is that I'm somewhat wary of electronic (partially because I hate 9 volt batteries), but it seems that the SP-1 is probably a bit better. Other than asking for suggestions (budget on marker is <$200, preferably less than $175), I have a few questions about the SP-1.

It's a low pressure marker, but can it take high pressure tanks or only low (at this point I'm guessing either)?
What barrel threading does the SP-1 have?
About how long does the battery last (if this is long enough I won't care as much about buying the 9 volts)?
Is it possible to add a double trigger, or does the trigger guard not come off?

Right now my opinions of the two are as follows:

98 custom:
Purely mechanical, won't have to worry about batteries
-Mechanics may mess up
Cheaper
-Not as many features
More accessories available (?)
Common so it is likely somebody can fix it

SP-1
Electronic, light trigger pull, good/decent RoF
-Have to buy batteries, potential water problems?
A little more expensive
-More features (burst, full auto, can replace board, etc)



I'd definitely say SP1. I own one and its a great, affordable marker.
1. It can take either tank type.
2. Impulse/Ion threading
3. I'd say around 4000 paintballs.
4. They offer a double trigger upgrade for around 30$, however then you may want to look at the Vibe, which comes stock with a double trigger and is basically a lighter SP1 for the same price.


Don't worry about water problems, I've personally seen an SP1 fired underwater.
The SP1 will honestly shot 5x better than the tippmann, I have owned both.
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Posted 14 June 2009 - 04:42 PM

Sp-1 hands down. its may not have as many upgrades, but its more flexible due to rat of fire change. my friend has one and gets like 3 days of play on his 9 volt. he runs remote so he just turns air off and leaves marker on most of the time.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 06:13 PM

I agree with Match, if you want a double trigger, go with the Vibe. It's lighter and cheaper than the SP1, but it's the same marker in a different body.

I'm assuming you're new, so I'm going to give you a helpful hint that I give to all newer players: don't go mil-sim. I know it looks appealing from the whole "Spec-Ops" stand point, but all it really does is add weight and waste cash. For a new player, focus on getting out there and playing, instead of buying shrouds and magazines and folding stocks and all that other plastic bolt-on stuff. That stuff really won't do anything except put a big dent in you wallet and make your marker heavier. With the Vibe, you don't have those options, so you won't be tempted. If you ever do want to get into mil-sim, I'd recommend honing your skills with the Vibe, then purchasing an SP1, and getting into it that way.

But look into the Vibe first for sure.
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Posted 15 June 2009 - 06:17 PM

B)(haha good one course for me it helps with aim.) But yeah go with nom's idea because that is why I am getting a pistol because it is lighter. Even if you do get a 98 custom you can add that stuff if you want. Like the whole intimadtion factor and all but you don't need to if you don't want to.
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Posted 15 June 2009 - 08:32 PM

Thanks for the advice. I've been trying to reply, but my browser seems to be having trouble handling cookies (IE8 isn't exactly friendly apparently).
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 05:03 PM

SP-1 For sure.

The 98 is a nice gun but the SP-1 is just on a different level than the 98.

Go with the SP-1


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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:08 PM

There are 0 issues with a SP-1/Vibe and water.

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 09:16 AM

unless u plan on runnin over ur marker with a car, sp-1/vibe for sure (my buddy accidentally ran over his 98 w/ a F-250 and there wasnt even a scratch lol. idk how he did it, but he did) if you go on smart parts web site u can see a video where they put the sp-1 under water and fired it.
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Posted 02 November 2009 - 10:43 AM

View PostDelta 047, on Nov 2 2009, 09:16 AM, said:

unless u plan on runnin over ur marker with a car, sp-1/vibe for sure (my buddy accidentally ran over his 98 w/ a F-250 and there wasnt even a scratch lol. idk how he did it, but he did) if you go on smart parts web site u can see a video where they put the sp-1 under water and fired it.


Haha dude my friend accidentally ran over his SP-1 with his S10 chevy and it's got some bad internal leak now lol. But yeah unless you run it over, SP-1 TRUMPS 98 custom!
98 customs are like the AK-47's of the paintball world.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 06:29 AM

View Posttoad24.5, on Nov 2 2009, 12:43 PM, said:

98 customs are like the AK-47's of the paintball world.


Only used by those that can't be trusted to operate a more sophisticated system?
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 04:33 PM

No, what I mean is they will always work basically no matter what you do to it. It may not be the best marker, but a 98 will keep going for you.
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Posted 15 November 2009 - 07:08 PM

Tippman 98 is a horrible marker IMO. It is a bitch to clean, you have to take the clamshell apart and if one of the trigger parts slips off(which normally happens) it is really hard to get back together. You will spend a bunch of money on the tippmann to turn a SHIZZLY [I DON'T WASH MY HANDS AFTER I WIPE] marker into a sort of okay marker.
The SP-1 comes good out of the box, you can use it as is with no problem. With upgrades you turn an okay marker into a really good marker.

I worked 6 months as a gun tech in a paintball store. Tippmanns aren't reliable, we got more tippmanns in for service than any other gun out there. Why buy a marker you will spend 100's of dollar upgrading only to find out you haven't really done anything to improve the way it shoots?

As far as batteries, you can get thousands of shots from a single battery, and keep and extra 9v in your bag and you don't even have to worry.

Also, buy used, I have owned close to 10 guns in my life and only three was new (a spyder, which I got rid of ASAP, and two phantoms, which were entirely too expensive but allowed me to order it custom, but allowed me to get several better, EP guns) and havent had a problem with a single one. Plus, once you buy a good used gun, you can trade it for other used guns.
I have owned a used empire 2k5 timmy, 2 shockers, an 06 ego, and a DM5, all used, all great guns.
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