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#1 User is offline   AnnarchyVixen 

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 06:01 AM

We all know a ball bounce is horrible, especially if you manage to get hit with it in a sensitive body area and i doesnt break, which tends to hurt worse... But what I think is worse than this is when your playing paintball, and then your gun gets hit, like lets say on the hopper, and the ball DOES break... I mean, to get called out for your hopper getting hit seems unfair :/ .... I dont understand this, not at all.... the gun should have immunity, lol

plus, its not like you can hide a hopper so well, or protect it so it doesnt get hit, irl guns dont have hoppers, but also lets say you have a large clip on your real gun.... if it gets hit with a bullet your not dead, so yeah.... This rule seems stupid, lol
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 06:15 AM

:P

It's because this is paintball and the idea is to marker the opposition.


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Posted 06 April 2010 - 06:20 AM

The rules of paintball are not the same as the rules of war, quite simply because paintball is not war.

The main reason I've seen for calling marker/hopper hits is for simplicity -- if you tell people "oh, only hits to X,Y, and Z count, but not A,B, or C," how many are going to be confused, and how are you going to easily enforce it?

The most easily enforced rule is "any mark of X size on you or your equipment means you're out."
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 06:22 AM

My field actually doesn't play with gun hits...if it it's your hands, toes, or anything else it counts, but gun hits don't...speedball is a different story, but yeah, I've never really understood the idea. But at the same time, it would help prevent blindfiring as well...because kids where i play, know that they can stick their gun out and it can get hit and not be out...where as if it counts, they are more apt to stick more of themselves out.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 06:34 AM

Yeah, gun hits do not count at our field either. However I dont mind the gun hit rule. As slinky mentioned, this is paintball...the idea is to mark your opponent with paint. If they are holding the gun it becomes part of them in my opinion.

And if you got shot in a large clip on a real gun..chances are you'd be in a world of hurt anyway, the bullet would go through the mag and depending on where it hit the mag, it would go into you as well. Either that or it would set off a chain reaction with all the other bullets..then you'd be really screwed.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 06:43 AM

Let the flames begin!!!!


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Let me address bullets first. No. Paintball has nothing to do with bullets. Sure, the mature among us admit to a fascination with militaristic style playing, and revel in our simulated combats, but in reality, there is NO comparison with what we do, and what happens in real life.

Example: I use the evergreens on my field as cover. Simply standing behind them assures me of adequate protection. In real life, bullets would penetrate those branches, and I would be dead.

Lesson to learn: Paintball and Bullets are like apples and oranges. Sure, we all like fruit, but they're NOT the same.

As to immunity from hits for markers, well, that's up to the ppl running the field. If it is a commercial field, they tend to count those hits.

Keep in mind, this is a GAME, not a military operation. And GAMES have RULES. If you don't like the rules, then set up your own game! I play outlaw almost exclusively. My buddies and I don't count markers, and have a system of rules to rate hits. Arms or legs aren't killshots, just make those limbs immobile. Three limb shots is a death. Torso, neck, and head are all instant killshots.

But we know this is a GAME. Thus, when we go to a commercial field, we don't grip about the RULES of the GAME. That doesn't make sense.

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Paintballs =/= Bullets.

Paintball = Game = Rules

Paintball =/= Real war.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 07:51 AM

View PostIrishMack, on Apr 6 2010, 06:22 AM, said:

... it would help prevent blindfiring as well...because kids where i play, know that they can stick their gun out and it can get hit and not be out...where as if it counts, they are more apt to stick more of themselves out.

This is a big reason why most fields have a no blindfire rule, and gun hits count rule. Its unfair to stick a gun out if it doesnt count and just unload on people but its also a safety hazard. When gun hits dont count, people blindfire. If someone is running around and their mask falls off, the person who is blindfiring doesnt know and it could be bad.

I've reffed at church camps where gun hits didnt count and I've had to dive on a couple people...
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 08:14 AM

I agree Ghost. Ive reffed alot of games where something like that has happened..and chances are if you dont react quickly..it ends badly. I will hand it to our home field. The refs are really good. Even though we have the "gun hits dont count" rule, those refs have eagle eyes and if they catch you blind firing, you're out of the game.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 08:16 AM

we do have a no blindfire rule, if we catch you blindfiring we pull you out for the game...but having a gun hit rule also helps prevent it, which is something we don't have.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 08:29 AM

View PostAnnarchyVixen, on Apr 6 2010, 09:01 AM, said:

We all know a ball bounce is horrible, especially if you manage to get hit with it in a sensitive body area and i doesnt break, which tends to hurt worse... But what I think is worse than this is when your playing paintball, and then your gun gets hit, like lets say on the hopper, and the ball DOES break... I mean, to get called out for your hopper getting hit seems unfair :/ .... I dont understand this, not at all.... the gun should have immunity, lol

plus, its not like you can hide a hopper so well, or protect it so it doesnt get hit, irl guns dont have hoppers, but also lets say you have a large clip on your real gun.... if it gets hit with a bullet your not dead, so yeah.... This rule seems stupid, lol


Some fields I play count marker hits, and some do not...personally, I prefer not to count marker hits. In addition, the same fields that count marker hits, also count any mark on your person as a hit, while the fields that do not count marker hits also do not count marks below the elbows or knees.

And if we are going to correct people for calling paintballs, bullets, then we should also correct people for calling markers, guns.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 08:31 AM

Friends and I play Lethal Shots. Meaning.... one in the head. (or) two in the chest. you can get shot as many times in the arms/legs that you can handle. gunshots are ridiculous, and count for nothing.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 09:27 AM

Blindfire is one of the hazards I worried about most when I was reffing. On one day, we'd have 1200 people at the field, and towards the middle of the day, about 500 would be on the castle field at once. If we didn't have the gun hit rules, then people who made it to the castle wall would just stick their marker around the window and unload, potentially causing serious harm to those on the other side (essentially point blank). If anything, it's really a safety measure.
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 09:52 AM

I've played in almost every way you can think of and I prefer gun hits in. The reason being because it keeps noobs from blind firing and people playing through. I played with a friend on his field years ago and it was lethal shots only. So in other words you could get hit in the arms and legs twice and once in the torso and head, gun shots didn't count. It was a blind fire-fest. After getting shot out the first several games from people playing through their hits I decided to bonus ball the crap out of everyone till they called it. Needless to say I was not the most popular person on the field but there was a sense of joy when I would here them scream out "I'm hit already! F#$%CK!

I think if people need to always question their hits (i.e. gun hits, lethal hits only, etc...) they end up just play through their hits and then decide if they want to stay in the game or not after everything is said and done. I've seen this a bunch of times and I can't stand it.



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Posted 06 April 2010 - 10:35 AM

View PostWarpaint, on Apr 6 2010, 10:29 AM, said:

And if we are going to correct people for calling paintballs, bullets, then we should also correct people for calling markers, guns.


Personally, I don't care all that much either way. The thing is that the OP was not merely calling them bullets, he or she was actually making a "real bullets and paintballs" comparison, which is a bit of a problem.


View PostBig Bone, on Apr 6 2010, 11:52 AM, said:

I think if people need to always question their hits (i.e. gun hits, lethal hits only, etc...) they end up just play through their hits and then decide if they want to stay in the game or not after everything is said and done. I've seen this a bunch of times and I can't stand it.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 10:49 AM

Under normal circumstances my home field counts marker hits. The only time we don't is if everyone in a private group does not want to count marker hits. That is a rare occasion though. Usually once we tell them it is to help prevent blind firing they want to keep it.
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