How to get maximum distance legally!
Posted 08 January 2006 - 04:54 PM
Posted 08 January 2006 - 10:17 PM
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Posted 09 January 2006 - 09:32 PM
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Posted 23 January 2006 - 03:52 PM
Does rifling effect the paintballs distance and/or accuracy compared to smooth bore or strait rifling?
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Posted 23 January 2006 - 09:30 PM
In practice, I'd be curious as to what this guy did to shoot that far. I say that, because through technique I can magically gain 40-50 feet of range. And even at 200 feet if I hammer a location just thoruhg suppression I'll get someone. If he was shooting flat, and getting more range from a gun that the only variable is the BARREL, that's physcially impossible.
Keep in mind a paintball is, well, an EGG. It's a solid breakable shell with a liquid core. Throw a water ballon and watch it in flight, that's a paintball with a solid shell. In fact, some paintballs you can see inside the ball and see bubbles in the paint. If you spin the outside, the INSIDE is liquid, it won't spin with the shell.
If you can, and it won't hurt anything, throw a water balloon. Put spin on it first, then throw it without spin if you can. See if one goes further. The truth is that it shouldn't. The water in the balloon won't spin with the balloon, you see.
The funny thing is that the debate back in the day with Armson's was the rifling made them more "Accurate". In theory, spinning a projectile has a little stabilization, like a gyroscope. In paintball, the spinning does not relate to the ball. I've had balls rotate in all directions, but it doesn't make a range difference.
I AM curious tho, if he's getting 40-50 more feet of range, and the ONLY variable is the barrel, that's just not possible. There's more going on there. a 98 custom? Hmm, not familiar with them, but did he ever shoot the gun weird? Like his hand really close to the cocking knob?
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Posted 28 January 2006 - 02:18 PM
Posted 31 January 2006 - 06:12 PM
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Posted 31 January 2006 - 07:18 PM
GhostLeader, on Jan 28 2006, 02:18 PM, said:
The reason bullets spin the way they do is because they are designed to slice/slide through the air, and they spin. THe reason they spin has a lot to do with force and friction. We talking about 1500fps difference as far as speed from the muzzle goes. As far as friction goes, it will have a very insignifigant effect because the friction needed to get decent results would break the fragile geletin projectile. You dont have as much range, your balls are just more accurate and it seems so. The 45║ thing is universal, unless your indoors.
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Posted 31 January 2006 - 09:55 PM
Well, this time around it helped me even more. I understood it even better and found that it helps me out even more this time. Thanks again. My distance is going to go way up once i find the perfect paint. I am still working on it, but success is not achieved without suffering.
The lesson here guys, is that you should reread stuff when you get to be a better baller, especially the pinned stuff. They make even more sense after time goes by.
Posted 18 February 2006 - 08:47 PM
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Posted 01 March 2006 - 12:36 PM
Except that in a musket ball, the inside is spinning just as fast as the outside, because the whole thing is solid. In a paintball, the fill may spin, but at a much reduced rate, if at all. Thicker fills are more likely to take a spin, so I can see some effect, but the magickal range of rifled barrels is, in large part, a myth. I've seen great accuracy from rifled barrels, but I do not know if this was a paint-to-barrel match (it was a kit) or simply the skill of the shooter. Any of them could be, given who was shooting.
Except we're taking about different directions. Rifling spins the ball on the Y axis, to create spin for accuracy (in the case of real firearms).
A flatline or Apex spins the ball on the X axis. This is not meant to spin the fill. It is meant to create lift, like on an airplane wing. This air movement only needs to touch the shell to be effective, not the fill inside.
And that is why a Flatline works but rifling does not.