i dont recall ever saying anything in my "center team" post about sending one sniper out to flank or anything about sendin one dagger to take out someone. as a matter of fact i never even mentioned a dagger in my section about center teams. also, i never said "go flank". i said something more passive. i said... "they will almost always pass you on one side or the other." and you should've connected a to b and found out that i meant they would essentialy flank themselves by moving too far up the tape and not checking their flanks for ambush parties.
also the specific day at the field i talked about there was more of a good defence, as that day, they walked right into my buddy who pwned them all. i was simply making a point about holding up the center of the field.
ie: in speedball, you dont send your guy down the snake without guys in the center 40-50 to help them out. also, nobody just charges up the snake without their buddies covering them in the center. do you know why? because they will flank themselves! you get my point i know you do. and i dont wanna hear any crap about how inflatables are different from trees... i know that already! (not tryin to flame.... just being passionate) (i yell at ppl all the time at the field. cept theirs no swear filter to dive into, so i dont swear) (dont start feeling special just because your on the internet...)
and so the entire post of mine wasnt just one big giant spamming fireball, heres something of mine from another topic this guy started.
erm... thanks for reposting my poo! you did good! also thanks for telling me of the new thread.
time for more discussions on teams... (so i dont feel stupid for the short post)
urban team (entry team on steroids!):
an elite team trained in the same way as an entry team, except to a more extreeme degree. the difference is that an urban team has to deal with long narrow hallways (kinda like running the gauntlet), and firefights in a place that seems as small as a closet (try that with a 21" barrel). the urban team does not have one marker that is no-good in an urban environment. and unlike strict woodsball, accuracy is not the main factor determining who wins and who looses, its pure & simple rate of fire. also an urban team would want to go to the shortest possible barrel/marker combination, as it makes it much easier to fight in a broom closet. while other teams go for the 14" freak kit, this team thinks of that as stupid, and a waste of money. instead, the urban team will be more than happy to saw off a stock barrel to 3-8 inches in leignth. if a urban player truly wishes to buy a new barrel, he buys a short one.
-note: i reccomend using your stock barrel (& a hacksaw) for this setup. it is also quite true that in an urban environment, its VERY nice to be quiet. run for a surpressed barrel (despite the extra leignth) as opposed to a 250$ stiffi.
-note2: grenades (of all types) are the urban ballers FRIEND! if you dont like spending 5$ a peice for your 'nades, spend 1$ on a smoke instead (feild permitting). and dont forget to get liberal on your paint/grenade budget. -subnote: but, if you have a full case and 6 'nades from last time you played, good for you you saved some money! -subnote2: use all of your cheap paint, no matter how deformed it gets (within reason).
-note3: for BOINK's sake use hand signals!
looking for this one scenario position i saw that made a better team then individual, copying and pasting soon.
origional idea, from P V -
Shock trooper thread on the shock trooper: http://forum.special...howtopic=126666
it's like a seek and destroy broadsword/sniper with an electro .. just read through the thread
my responce -
i personaly like the shocktrooper variant.... it makes sence. he coveres the two wide ends of the spectrum (accurate & stealthy meets fast-shooting and bulky) but doesnt cover the middle ground that a sabre would need. ie commander, dagger. i wouldnt call it a hybrid however as shocktroopers were called stormtroopers in WWI. they practiced something known as blitzkrieg.
would be fun... all of a sudden 2 sneaky sons of canines with lack of y chromosome sneak up behind enemy lines and unleash the firepower of 5 with uncanny accuracy! think doubleT with a freak kit, stock, and red-dot scope.
themesong: dragonforce, through the fire and flames... search it, youll know why it fits so well.
also this would be a nice force for synergy with the tanks. i mean.... get something thats hard to get out behind enemy lines, then unleash a full blown assault!
translation (uber paint throwing money spenders?):
a team of 2-4 guys, each with a bulging gearkit that lacks nothing in accuracy or firepower ride on the back of a tank deep into enemy teritory and rip apart their opponents with supirior stealth (ghille), tacticts (not hard to do in paintball), and weapons (those freaked doubleT's). there job is to make themselves seem like more men (or a bigger problem) than they actualy are. they take men from the frontlines and almost pave the way for the main force (8-20 guys) kinda like paratroopers of WWII. the gearkit is the complete oposite side of the spectrum from urban warriors. instead of light weight markers and super short barrels, they would use grenade launchers on heavy "machine guns". all kinds of heavy weapons would be in the mix to tear down the enemy... rockets, mortars, you name it! in a co-operation with the urban warriors (and all conventional troops), they would hold down the outskirts of a city (mass of paintbunkers designed to look like buildings). they would rain paint on all who crossed their path. they would be a squad of sheer terror on the field. they would never go without respect.
-note: the reason i said stormtroopers is because stormtroopers would mass up suplies in secret right by the enemy lines then push with all their might right through the heart of the enemy, the objective is to create a line of resistance behind the enemy, kill them off, and advance frendly lines.
-note2: stealth seems to be an acessory to these guys. they hide in the shadows, but when the poo hits the fan, nobody can stand in their way. theyre accurate to the point of insanity, and shoot without a moments hesitation. they will pwn the individual player in a matter of 15 seconds or less. as masters of movement they always have angles on you, even when they dont know your their. they seem widely placed to you as you line up your scope, but you fail to see the one behind you, preparing to call for a surrender... a silent kill.
-note3: dont be afraid to use the grapeshot! (especialy if you run into these guys).
those are the two most effective positions i can think of that kinda break tradition like that... theres more good positions out there, some that never got any good credit. why? because ppl smack them down without even knowing what its all about. seriously, try it or dont smack it down... (btw i know the urban guys work... ive seen it all the time. something called S.W.A.T. i simply aplied what ive learned from my dad's swat-team/police officer friend to paintball.)
This post has been edited by weeebeep: 17 January 2008 - 06:33 PM