Paintball drive by
Posted 31 August 2007 - 06:40 PM
Did we do the right thing? not shooting paintball back at them
or the right thing? shooting air at them.
Posted 31 August 2007 - 07:33 PM
Posted 31 August 2007 - 08:30 PM
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Posted 31 August 2007 - 08:35 PM
you could have gotten the plate number and called the cops about it
shooting back even if it was blanks is just as bad
i should give you a warning for promoting unsafe acts.
you were in no danger by what your post indicates.
frankly i dont think you or your friend really took a moment to think at all.
Glory is for the weak.
Posted 31 August 2007 - 08:38 PM
I'm going with you were in the van and you were shot at...in this case with a mob of 6 to 7 kids then I'm guessing you must have done something to tick them off, or maybe they had some alcohol as you don't NORMALLY see that happen ever, if at all.
This post has been edited by Ironside: 31 August 2007 - 08:40 PM
Posted 31 August 2007 - 08:51 PM
Posted 31 August 2007 - 09:07 PM
1-I is right though, dry firing could have gotten you in a lot of trouble. I'm assuming you don't own a milsim'ed tippmann, but still if a cop heard all that paintball firing he'd probably think immediately that there was a firefight. Also, then all of you would be charged with possession of a weapon with intent to harm, and probably for just having the paintball marker out in the open.
Posted 31 August 2007 - 09:10 PM
1) Generates Bad publicity for PB
2) Probably nonthing would actually be done
On another note, dry firing is kinda dumb, but it was probably a spur of the moment, and we all do dumb stuff. So I don't blame you. Shooting back with ammo though makes it a two way street.
Texas Legion - Central Texas
Posted 31 August 2007 - 09:25 PM
Posted 31 August 2007 - 10:41 PM
This post has been edited by THE NAMELESS: 31 August 2007 - 10:42 PM
Posted 02 September 2007 - 06:37 AM
i should give you a warning for promoting unsafe acts...
What? He's not "promoting unsafe acts"... if you actually read the post you'd see he was asking our advice on the matter... and no where is he "promoting" what he did.
Honestly, we need more detail to help you out PNTBLLRDYE. It's kind of hard to help you out without specifics. But I can say, that using your pb gun in any way in an assault/fight isn't a good thing. You should call the cops, though chances are by the time they get there the guys will be long gone.
Posted 02 September 2007 - 07:34 AM
Also, technically they are purposely shooting a weapon at you. Technically, you had the right to use deadly force (which sounds really harsh). No, I'm not saying you should have killed them of course, but they should have at least been shot with a couple of hundred paintballs to learn a valuable lesson.
This post has been edited by Philipp122: 02 September 2007 - 08:01 AM
Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:58 AM
The right thing to do would have been to notify the police. Maybe the police would have caught up with these individuals, and maybe not, but at least there would be some record of previous mischief if they continue their misbehavior later and elsewhere. People don't get caught, because 99% (equally exaggerated statistic) of the time, no one sees anything. If you shoot back, you stand the chance of being caught or reported yourself, and then having to explain things to the police and hope they buy your story.
LE does not consider paintball markers a weapon, but a dangerous toy. If you look up injury or vandalism statistics, paintball marker abuse usually falls under categories of misdemeanors. In this case, if the people were the targets, not the vehicle, some justification for assault could be proved, but a case for life and death self defense would not. None of the paintball driveby assaults in this country have been presented as more than assault in court. No one has the right to take the law into their own hands, especially when you are not defending your life or home. And what lesson comes from repeating one random act of stupidity by committing another? More likely if the offending paintballers had been shot at, they would have returned, intent on shooting more than the vehicle.
Yeah, that sounds tough and it may impress other kids here, but in reality, this is a poor way of solving your problem. You could have just demanded your wallet back. You could have gotten some help, apprehended the thief, and reported it, which would have prevented future crimes. But instead, you took the Hollywood drama way out, decked the guy, and lucked out. Lucked out? Yes, because the guy has so far left it at that, and you weren't caught hitting him. Schools these days don't care much about what starts violence, they just don't put up with it. Lucked out because the guy didn't get hurt. Maybe that guy will wait for you to use the bathroom one day, and while you're using a urinal, he comes up and knocks your head into the wall, or stabs you from behind. Or maybe he gets a couple of his buddies to wait with him after school one day to help him even the score with you...or someone you know.
Many of you kids need to learn that modern society has ZERO tolerance for juvenile misbehavior of any kind, regardless of how it is initiated. I and many other adults don't like that, and some of us are pushing back trying to put things back in balance, but this is the part of the post 9/11 world we live in right now. You still have the right to defend yourself, but you have to be able to demonstrate to the law that you are clearly in jeopardy, and respond only with the force necessary to protect yourself from harm. The law doesn't need you, me, or anyone else delivering justice. I know that sounds harsh, (I don't intend to sound mean or like I'm trying to put kids down...I have a few myself) but that's the reality of today's get tough with kids society, not adolescent, I've got something-to-prove, tough-talk. If things are ever going to be put back into proper perspective, we've got to keep our brains engaged when are tongues are a-waggling, and keep our hands at our sides. The weapons against fear and hysteria are common sense and reason, not bravado and rage.