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Posted 13 July 2007 - 10:04 PM

View PostThe Stuntman, on Jul 13 2007, 11:21 AM, said:

View Postrodney, on Jul 13 2007, 07:23 AM, said:

My question is a simple one. Why is a remote needed anyway?

Long gone are the days when we looped our remotes to keep liquid CO2 out of the valve.
It is far easier to switch shooting hands with no remote line getting in your way.
The line gets caught on every piece of brush... especially if you are trying to be quiet.
The gas-through stock might look pretty, but dosnt it serve the same function as a bottle with a no-slip cover on?
If it's a weight issue, why buy after market flair that adds nothing to preformance but adds weight to the marker?

It really comes down to style & individual preference. I think some people are just more comfortable with a marker that doesn't have a big 'ole tank hanging off its bottom. Iv'e noticed that some players who have alot of hands-on experience with real firearms seem to like the more realistic feel a remote can provide. They are used to holding guns in a particular manner, and tanks just get in their way. There is more to a markers comfort than just weight - its how it feels in your hand, how it balances when carried, how it hangs on a sling, etc.


Hence the reason I use a remote.
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Posted 04 August 2007 - 09:13 AM

sayin a dagger has to have their air on gun is like sayin a hammer has to have two guns weilded together. just use whatever works for you, theres nothin saying you even have to play one of these positions. just play how you play, i personally will switch from commander to heavy rifleman to dagger or sniper or what ever all in one game where ever i am needed.
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Posted 04 August 2007 - 09:18 AM

One thing I never understand, what happened to vertical air?
I love vertival air, but I don't ever see it on these forums (except for VSC phantoms).
It would be much better for daggers than flipping your tank backwards.
I have vert air on my minimag and a JCS stock, and I love it!

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Posted 04 August 2007 - 10:55 AM

View PostQUEEG, on Aug 4 2007, 12:18 PM, said:

One thing I never understand, what happened to vertical air?
I love vertival air, but I don't ever see it on these forums (except for VSC phantoms).
It would be much better for daggers than flipping your tank backwards.
I have vert air on my minimag and a JCS stock, and I love it!

well tippmann a-5s can have vertical air. all you do is take off the asa housing then attach your tank to the gun. if you have a stock and a good barrel, it balances your gun out extremely well
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Posted 04 August 2007 - 01:39 PM

View Postflorentine, on Aug 4 2007, 01:55 PM, said:

View PostQUEEG, on Aug 4 2007, 12:18 PM, said:

One thing I never understand, what happened to vertical air?
I love vertival air, but I don't ever see it on these forums (except for VSC phantoms).
It would be much better for daggers than flipping your tank backwards.
I have vert air on my minimag and a JCS stock, and I love it!

well tippmann a-5s can have vertical air. all you do is take off the asa housing then attach your tank to the gun. if you have a stock and a good barrel, it balances your gun out extremely well


I think this could be a bad idea with co2 as there is no area for it to expand, but I've never tried it before so who knows!
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Posted 04 August 2007 - 07:27 PM

yea, but when you put a tank onto the asa as normal, like out the back of the gun, it still doesnt have time to expand so it does the same as before
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Post icon  Posted 04 August 2007 - 07:32 PM

There is nothing "wrong" about a Dagger using a remote line, per se. A remote line is, much like using a reversed tank or a deep drop, simply one way to accomplish a practical end that is particularly useful for most Daggers, that is, creating a tight marker configuration.

Sometimes I use a remote. Sometimes I don't. Almond Joy's got nuts... :laugh:
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Posted 04 August 2007 - 09:47 PM

View PostBielerga, on Aug 4 2007, 03:39 PM, said:

View Postflorentine, on Aug 4 2007, 01:55 PM, said:

View PostQUEEG, on Aug 4 2007, 12:18 PM, said:

One thing I never understand, what happened to vertical air?
I love vertival air, but I don't ever see it on these forums (except for VSC phantoms).
It would be much better for daggers than flipping your tank backwards.
I have vert air on my minimag and a JCS stock, and I love it!

well tippmann a-5s can have vertical air. all you do is take off the asa housing then attach your tank to the gun. if you have a stock and a good barrel, it balances your gun out extremely well


I think this could be a bad idea with co2 as there is no area for it to expand, but I've never tried it before so who knows!

It's actually even better than an angled ASA.
It puts the liquid in a better spot.
Honestly though, if your gun has the ability to go vert air, most people get an expansion chamber and run backbottle.
Which eliminates the need for a stock. I already had a stock that I like, and I don't shoot fast, so it works out for me.
What I would really love is to get a carbon fiber 45/45 and run vert air.
That would be awesome.

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 02:13 AM

View PostBielerga, on Aug 4 2007, 01:39 PM, said:

View Postflorentine, on Aug 4 2007, 01:55 PM, said:

View PostQUEEG, on Aug 4 2007, 12:18 PM, said:

One thing I never understand, what happened to vertical air?
I love vertival air, but I don't ever see it on these forums (except for VSC phantoms).
It would be much better for daggers than flipping your tank backwards.
I have vert air on my minimag and a JCS stock, and I love it!

well tippmann a-5s can have vertical air. all you do is take off the asa housing then attach your tank to the gun. if you have a stock and a good barrel, it balances your gun out extremely well


I think this could be a bad idea with co2 as there is no area for it to expand, but I've never tried it before so who knows!

It works pretty well. Not as well as a good regulator, but the position of the tank does make it very difficult to get liquid CO2 in the gun - so that's a plus. You might say that a vertical setup turns a regular tank into an anti-syphon tank.
I dont care much for it myself, but still see it around on rental guns alot.
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