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Posted 29 April 2010 - 05:41 AM

And I am generally mechanically retarded.

This next year I'll be saving up to give my little 2000 Ford Ranger a lift, likely just 4" with possibly a small body lift if needed. I plan to put some 33 Dick Cepeks on it, micky thompson classics, and, I hope, drop a 302 in there with cold air injection.....

The new engine, I hope, will compensate for loss of power due to the lift and bigger tires. I also hope it will do well in 4 low to power through most off road issues. I'm not into serious mudbogging and am not a rock climber, I'm merely working towards a better suited hunting truck that will also look nice. Someone mentioned changng the front end to that of a Jeep Wagoneer for the solid axels. Basically, I'm wanting to build up a good truck off of the Ranger, and not buy a new truck in the process.

So, anyone able to help me walk through this, I'd appreciate it. Like I said, I don't know what's gonna be needed to make it all work right.

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 06:00 AM

Which lift kit are you looking at? I believe rancho used to have a skid plate for rangers. Make sure you buy good quality pads and rotors. The oversize tires will eat up the cheap ones.

I personally like bilstein shocks but it depends on the tires you get. Bilstein + 8 ply make for a rough ride. Rancho 5000 shocks are very rough too.


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Posted 29 April 2010 - 06:24 AM

Yeah, haven't though alot about the shocks... I was looking at possibly doing an air ride. I was looking at superlift...
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Posted 29 April 2010 - 06:38 AM

I just check lift companies here at work. Very little selection for the ranger (I work in autoparts.). The superlift (pn K358) kit comes with shocks. They also have an optional skid plate if you wish.

The one thing about the ranger is that the front OE drive shaft is very weak and with the larger tires and lift the drive shaft won't last 6 months. So you will have to add in the cost of a new HD front drive shaft. Superlift sells them. You don't need it immediately but expect to roast the stock one.



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Posted 29 April 2010 - 06:46 AM

Yeah, I believe the standard OE Drive will get another 22k miles before you need to replace it. I'd just sooner do that along with the rest so I don't have to worry about it.

Any heavy bumpers for the Ranger? I was looking at Warn bumpers, but, they're all for F150 or bigger (on the ford side). I was wanting to get a pre-runner with a heavy base and winch.....

Might have to have one fabricated. So far, i think i'm looking at about 8 grand for lift, wheels and tires. Not sure how much the differential and such will cost.....
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Posted 29 April 2010 - 07:17 AM

Most seem to be a grill guard mount for the winch. Prerunner bumper usually aren't winchmount, except jeeps. You might be fabbing that.


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Posted 29 April 2010 - 07:58 AM

finally my expertise in the pb world!!!!!!!!!

few things to remember..

1. larger tires need more lift
1a. less lift and more cutting = lower center of gravity.
1b. larger lift = cooler look

2. Larger tires = gear issues
2a. leave stock gears and possibly loose overdrive or lug down the road
2b. regear - search for gearing calculators - and retain factory gearing (overall gearing)

3. bumpers... ahhhh the heavier the more your front will sag!!! so watch that...


where do you live?
im in south NJ and can help ya if you are close by....

i lifted my buds 1998 s10 blazer
has 2" body lift (already had that)
but i added a 6" suspension lift

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350 sb from a 1991 caprice police car with roller motor
comp cams extreme 4x4 roller cam (.457" lift)
1996 tahoe vortec heads
vortec dual plane intake
msd 6al with built in rev limiter and timing control

dana 60 front and 14bolt rear both locked with detroits and 4.56 gears (factory gears!!!!!)
smc 465 trans (granny gear)
np205 xfer case

1978 chevy 3/4 ton
patriot extreme 15k winch in back between frame rails
6" superlift springs front and 12" rear 56" leafs with factory block removed for total of 9" rear lift)
1" ord zero rate up front for total of 7" front
ord xover steering
1976 caddy eldorado caliper swap in rear
40" ground hawgs
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Posted 29 April 2010 - 08:12 AM

Fabfour Prerunner

Not a warn bumper, but, similar to what I want, and you're right, I'll need to do some fabing to it.

@ Tele, I'm in Washington State. I'd end up owing you alot of beer for coming out to help me fix this thing up LOL However, I will certainly be happy to discuss these things with you.

Regearing the tranny..... I thought that as well, along with speedometer and other semi useful guages that might be off a little due to the tires.

I have actually been looking through Here for some of this. It's a site dedicated to what they term as "Ranger Based Vehicles"

Nice truck BTW B)
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Posted 29 April 2010 - 08:21 AM

View PostPhunkyMunky, on Apr 29 2010, 11:12 AM, said:

@ Tele, I'm in Washington State. I'd end up owing you alot of beer for coming out to help me fix this thing up LOL However, I will certainly be happy to discuss these things with you.

Regearing the tranny..... I thought that as well, along with speedometer and other semi useful guages that might be off a little due to the tires.

Nice truck BTW B)



yeah that is alot of beer!!! and i love beer!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah i can talk to ya here, by pm, by email or by phone/internet chats.....

you regear the axles... not the trans..... yeah bigger tires make the speedo wrong... if you have an automatic it is an easy fix (for chevies at least) for manual trans.... it can be more difficult.. but i have my cell phone with windshield mount for my speedo using...
http://www.tchartdev.../gps_speedo.htm
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Posted 29 April 2010 - 08:55 AM

Ah, ok. Got ya.

Some other thoughts about my truck are...

Second gas tank, on board air compressor, spare or second battery.

I'd like to mold the fenders to flare out over the new meats, I don't like the obviously plastic type that comes stock.

And inside I'd like to get rid of the stock 60/40 seats and swap em for captains type seats. Re-do interior lining and carpet, and see if I can get a custom dash made. The rest will be a new console with a hidden lockbox to put my Glock when I should be leaving it in the truck (like at the courthouse) and have it set up to put the CB and such.

Like I said, I'm very new at all of this, but I know what I want this thing to do for me. Someone once mentioned I ought to just buy a truck to suit my needs, and since I own this puppy outright, and it fits my size (I'm not a big fellow at 5'6) I honestly don't see why I shouldn't just simply build the truck to be what I want.

My use for it is for hunting, work, running around town, and general redneck fun. I don't do alot a bogging, tho I'm not opposed to that, and have never rock climbed. However, it's nice to go back down those old logging roads that no ones been down in 15 years, which is my intent for prerunners actually, to push brush down under me.

I'm really wanting to drop a 302 in there. And I think once done it'll be a heck of a truck. A little paint and body work and it'll be awsomeness. I think it's gonna take a couple years to finish, as you know things need to be saved up for for most of us anyhow.

Other issue here is I have basically no tools. I've considered just taking it in to have it all done. Certainly will be the case for the bodywork and paint. Might be able to get away with doing some of the simple stuff on my own however. When it comes to Lifts, now, I see you mentioned a difference between the rear and front? And how tough is it to change the front end for solid axles?
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Posted 29 April 2010 - 10:10 AM

I plan on doing something similar with a Ranger when I get back from Guam. Except my lift won't be as big. B) 2" lift, some engine add-ons, but then the rest is to cater to my outdoors style. Cap with a rack on top, hitch and bike rack, light bar, brush guards. I used to have a pretty good off road rig when I was in vegas, that is...until someone stole it! I had rancho shocks all around. Worked quite well and didn't have any break even after hard landings. (Yes, I got that 30yr old, 3/4ton beast airborne a few times).

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 10:37 AM

see posted....


View PostPhunkyMunky, on Apr 29 2010, 11:55 AM, said:

Ah, ok. Got ya.

Some other thoughts about my truck are...

Second gas tank, on board air compressor, spare or second battery.

I too have a second gas tank.... dual 18's.... no on board air yet.. going to do the york air compressor upgrade..... i have dual duralast gold batteries under the hood... i got 2 dump truck batteries in the bed... each are the size of 2!!!!! think they are called 8D or something like that...


I'd like to mold the fenders to flare out over the new meats, I don't like the obviously plastic type that comes stock.
Good luck with that one.. im no good at bodywork so ya on yer own from there...

And inside I'd like to get rid of the stock 60/40 seats and swap em for captains type seats. Re-do interior lining and carpet, and see if I can get a custom dash made. The rest will be a new console with a hidden lockbox to put my Glock when I should be leaving it in the truck (like at the courthouse) and have it set up to put the CB and such.
well a recommendation for you... get rid of the bench if ya whish.. but get rid of the carpet too.... carpet and mud/water = rust and holes...... interior can be tricky..... custom dash... i thought about that but im sticking to stock... with a modded setup from a dump truck... typical chevy has 4 little gauges on the left and a big speedo and big tach (or gause gauge was stock i put the tach in)..... the new one actually has a tach/gas guage combo!!!! looks cool.....


Like I said, I'm very new at all of this, but I know what I want this thing to do for me. Someone once mentioned I ought to just buy a truck to suit my needs, and since I own this puppy outright, and it fits my size (I'm not a big fellow at 5'6) I honestly don't see why I shouldn't just simply build the truck to be what I want.
My truck is BUILT NOT BOUGHT!!!! there is a few things to say...
1. you build and mod it you know what is new/done right
2. you let someone else do it.. you dont know how to fix it and if they did a good job
3. self gratification when people go DAMN U DID THAT!!!!!!


My use for it is for hunting, work, running around town, and general redneck fun. I don't do alot a bogging, tho I'm not opposed to that, and have never rock climbed. However, it's nice to go back down those old logging roads that no ones been down in 15 years, which is my intent for prerunners actually, to push brush down under me.

I'm really wanting to drop a 302 in there. And I think once done it'll be a heck of a truck. A little paint and body work and it'll be awsomeness. I think it's gonna take a couple years to finish, as you know things need to be saved up for for most of us anyhow.
I have had my truck since 1989 so you aint tellin me anything i dont know about time!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Other issue here is I have basically no tools. I've considered just taking it in to have it all done. Certainly will be the case for the bodywork and paint. Might be able to get away with doing some of the simple stuff on my own however. When it comes to Lifts, now, I see you mentioned a difference between the rear and front? And how tough is it to change the front end for solid axles?


this is the best part... my wife and i have an agreement... so maybe difficult for you if you are single/young and not a great paying job....

but here goes... if you pay someone to just put gears in you are looking at say $250 in parts and $500 in labor..... but you can buy the tools for $80-$125, do it yourself....save $3-400 and end up with tools.... then you go to do something else.. buy more tools... eventually you will see that there are only a few tools other than specialty tools and your list of tools needed will be aquired easily!!!!!!!!!!!

you say how hard is it to do a lift..... well depends... on your truck is it leaf spring, coil spring....

my truck is leafs all the way around... easy to lift.... 2 ubolts (4 x 15/16 nuts) on each side... so 8 nuts and the axle can come out.. but have to disconnect the 1 brake line (brake line comes back then splits to each side in a Y fashion..... then 2 bolts on each leaf to get them off..... really easy.... front is tougher but not that bad....
it comes down to joining some forums and finding some local guys that you can hang out with and they help you... plus you can bring some people into the pb world!!!!!!


websites for you.. I am known as RootBreaker on these sites...

www.pavementsucks.com
www.coloradok5.com - mainly chevy site but you can readup different things to get ideas....
www.truckporn.com - local guys to me that started their own..i really dont frequent it much
www.fullsizechevy.com - same thing chevy site but good readings on newer trucks

but best of all look for ford specific forums that you can join.....

also here is one of the best resources you will ever see...

www.waytekwire.com

they are by far my ONLY source for most of my electrical parts needs...

i bought all my electrical connectors, switches, wire loom, wire loom connectors from them....

at local store wire loom is $8 for 2 feet.... i bought 100' for $17!!!!!! and bought all the adapters... T adapter, cutouts, ends.... even the piece that allows you to clip wireloom to the body/frame.....


whatever you do... do it right the first time.. take your time... and MAKE IT NEAT!!!!!!!

if you arent going to do it right... dont do it at all....

also full kinda history of my truck.... yeah im a busy beaver...

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Side Arm==>Tiberius Tac 8.1 with 4 first strike mags and 6 regular mags
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