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Paintball drive by

#1 User is offline   PNTBLLRDYE 

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 06:40 PM

Ok, a couple of weeks ago my cousin and some friends ( including me) went paintballing. on our way back we heard thumps on his van, 6 or 7 kids were shooting paintballs at his van...We rolled the windows up and just stood there. They all had tinted lenses on and we had ours. one my friends decided we shoot back at them because we still had air and paint. I said no because we could get charged. So what we eneded up doing was turning off our eyes. and dry firing at them and they ran away. End of story.

Did we do the right thing? not shooting paintball back at them
or the right thing? shooting air at them.



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Posted 31 August 2007 - 07:33 PM

the right thing to do , would of been throwing an f bomb at their van
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Posted 31 August 2007 - 08:30 PM

Uhh I'd say yes. They had umm, I don't like to call it this normally but in this case "Weapons" and you were defending yourself without hurting them/
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Posted 31 August 2007 - 08:35 PM

you did wrong
you could have gotten the plate number and called the cops about it
shooting back even if it was blanks is just as bad
i should give you a warning for promoting unsafe acts.

you were in no danger by what your post indicates.
frankly i dont think you or your friend really took a moment to think at all.
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Posted 31 August 2007 - 08:38 PM

If I read this correctly then you were "in" the van and they started firing at it, or you came back and they were already firing at it and you somehow rolled the windows up without being shot... :mellow:

I'm going with you were in the van and you were shot at...in this case with a mob of 6 to 7 kids then I'm guessing you must have done something to tick them off, or maybe they had some alcohol as you don't NORMALLY see that happen ever, if at all.


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Posted 31 August 2007 - 08:51 PM

yes. i wan IN the van when it happend. the windows were down and we rolled them up instantly, we got out of the van- peaking out our heads and shooting air. not paintball. or any projectile at that matter.
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Posted 31 August 2007 - 09:07 PM

Ok, well in the heat of a moment I can see dry firing back at them happening. And really I'm sure you could have drived away....Hope you informed the field owner and/or some refs, this kinda stuff shouldn't be happening at all. I remember reading something about some idiot doing a drive-bys in the UK firing paintballs at pedestrians on the sidewalks....some people.

1-I is right though, dry firing could have gotten you in a lot of trouble. I'm assuming you don't own a milsim'ed tippmann, but still if a cop heard all that paintball firing he'd probably think immediately that there was a firefight. Also, then all of you would be charged with possession of a weapon with intent to harm, and probably for just having the paintball marker out in the open.
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Posted 31 August 2007 - 09:10 PM

I think I would have to agree with 1-I. Get their plate and report them. However:
1) Generates Bad publicity for PB
2) Probably nonthing would actually be done

On another note, dry firing is kinda dumb, but it was probably a spur of the moment, and we all do dumb stuff. So I don't blame you. Shooting back with ammo though makes it a two way street.
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Posted 31 August 2007 - 09:11 PM

Bad move. You should've called the cops. Even if you didn't fire any paintballs, you could've gotten yourself in trouble.
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Posted 31 August 2007 - 09:25 PM

i would most likely scream curses, do some flipping off, then floor it and scare the u know what outta them
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Posted 31 August 2007 - 10:41 PM

Call the cops! That's a no-brainer. Even if you were in the middle of nowhere all 7 of em couldn't have gotten away. Stuff like this really ticks me off, since it gives people looking in from outside of the sport a bad first impression... You notified the field owner at least right? Or were you just in the middle of nowhere?

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 06:17 AM

we were on a street, no where close to the feild we were playing it.
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 06:37 AM

View Post1-I, on Aug 31 2007, 11:35 PM, said:

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i should give you a warning for promoting unsafe acts...

What? He's not "promoting unsafe acts"... if you actually read the post you'd see he was asking our advice on the matter... and no where is he "promoting" what he did.



Honestly, we need more detail to help you out PNTBLLRDYE. It's kind of hard to help you out without specifics. But I can say, that using your pb gun in any way in an assault/fight isn't a good thing. You should call the cops, though chances are by the time they get there the guys will be long gone.
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 07:34 AM

The right thing to do is to shoot paintballs back. You could call the cops, but 99% of the time people like this never get caught. On top of that, these kids would still be out there doing the same crap to people. These kind of kids are the ones that enter their teens smoking weed and keying people's cars.

Also, technically they are purposely shooting a weapon at you. Technically, you had the right to use deadly force (which sounds really harsh). No, I'm not saying you should have killed them of course, but they should have at least been shot with a couple of hundred paintballs to learn a valuable lesson.

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:58 AM

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The right thing to do is to shoot paintballs back. You could call the cops, but 99% of the time people like this never get caught. On top of that, these kids would still be out there doing the same crap to people...


The right thing to do would have been to notify the police. Maybe the police would have caught up with these individuals, and maybe not, but at least there would be some record of previous mischief if they continue their misbehavior later and elsewhere. People don't get caught, because 99% (equally exaggerated statistic) of the time, no one sees anything. If you shoot back, you stand the chance of being caught or reported yourself, and then having to explain things to the police and hope they buy your story.

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...they are technically purposely shooting a weapon at you. Technically, you had the right to use deadly force (which sounds really harsh). No, I'm not saying you should have killed them of course, but they should have at least been shot with a couple of hundred paintballs to learn a valuable lesson.


LE does not consider paintball markers a weapon, but a dangerous toy. If you look up injury or vandalism statistics, paintball marker abuse usually falls under categories of misdemeanors. In this case, if the people were the targets, not the vehicle, some justification for assault could be proved, but a case for life and death self defense would not. None of the paintball driveby assaults in this country have been presented as more than assault in court. No one has the right to take the law into their own hands, especially when you are not defending your life or home. And what lesson comes from repeating one random act of stupidity by committing another? More likely if the offending paintballers had been shot at, they would have returned, intent on shooting more than the vehicle.

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I remember when someone tried to steal my wallet at school. I simply decked him, end of story. I just walked up, squared him in the eye, and left. Problem solved.


Yeah, that sounds tough and it may impress other kids here, but in reality, this is a poor way of solving your problem. You could have just demanded your wallet back. You could have gotten some help, apprehended the thief, and reported it, which would have prevented future crimes. But instead, you took the Hollywood drama way out, decked the guy, and lucked out. Lucked out? Yes, because the guy has so far left it at that, and you weren't caught hitting him. Schools these days don't care much about what starts violence, they just don't put up with it. Lucked out because the guy didn't get hurt. Maybe that guy will wait for you to use the bathroom one day, and while you're using a urinal, he comes up and knocks your head into the wall, or stabs you from behind. Or maybe he gets a couple of his buddies to wait with him after school one day to help him even the score with you...or someone you know.

Many of you kids need to learn that modern society has ZERO tolerance for juvenile misbehavior of any kind, regardless of how it is initiated. I and many other adults don't like that, and some of us are pushing back trying to put things back in balance, but this is the part of the post 9/11 world we live in right now. You still have the right to defend yourself, but you have to be able to demonstrate to the law that you are clearly in jeopardy, and respond only with the force necessary to protect yourself from harm. The law doesn't need you, me, or anyone else delivering justice. I know that sounds harsh, (I don't intend to sound mean or like I'm trying to put kids down...I have a few myself) but that's the reality of today's get tough with kids society, not adolescent, I've got something-to-prove, tough-talk. If things are ever going to be put back into proper perspective, we've got to keep our brains engaged when are tongues are a-waggling, and keep our hands at our sides. The weapons against fear and hysteria are common sense and reason, not bravado and rage. :happy:
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