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#16 User is offline   Agnoeo 

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Posted 22 December 2008 - 04:35 PM

I wanna add my 2cents!!

1. What is the bore size of your Phantom's stock barrel?
Not sure on bore size, I have it bored out for freak incerts.
2. What brand paint works best for you in your Phantom's stock barrel?
I use visible impact and like it a lot. Heard good things about draxxus
3. What barrel (brand/length) do you use with your Phantom to get the best performance?
I use an 11in barrel which is black...Forget exactly what kind it is, its bored out to fit freak incerts. Also have a 12in stock barrel.

I like Side-Swipes response about marb for woodsball. It really helps when you don't have a random twig chopping your balls. Many times I run into that issue. That would make a good Note/Tip
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Posted 22 December 2008 - 06:00 PM

The Phantom performs best on one kind of paint...it really is surprizing to most people.

Round.

That is it. If the paint is round then the Phantom likes it.

Funny thing is...every paintball gun I have ever shot liked round paint! Performed the best that way.
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Posted 22 December 2008 - 06:26 PM

Krazy8 ur krazy, everyone knows you use cubed paintballs. cmon I mean who uses round ones?

LOL, j/k....

I agree though. The phantom my buddy has shoots just about everything fine.
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Posted 22 December 2008 - 08:33 PM

View PostSide-Swipe, on Dec 21 2008, 11:03 PM, said:

View PostBecc, on Dec 21 2008, 07:14 PM, said:

I have a 6" stock barrel on my phantom, and CCI detent rings which work perfectly. Small, compact, and no noticable difference in distance acheivable while still accurate. It's the most accurate barrel Ive used, and i've used a lot of them. I've never bothered to check the bore size, but it doesn't really seem to matter (everything shoots great through it). That said, I refuse to shoot anything but Marbs through it when possible. Simply because marbs always seem to fly straight and are never dimpled. I've also never had a marb break in the barrel, and I've used it in 20 degree/raining weather.


Marbs are like woodsball paint, they have a very thick shell. When you shoot in the woods, they have a tendency of clearing through brush without breaking, sometime clipping twigs.




I both am aquiesce to agree and inclined to disagree. If im pumping, so not wasting time clearing through twigs- because it might not break when it hits the twig but it sure as hell isnt going to fly straight and not get deflected at all. I'll either get closer, or i'll have someone else with a paint-waster do it.

Also, if thats what youre looking for, I'd use heat or nightmare first. The problem with a marb is that though its a very thick shell, it shatters easily (something i like because of lack of bounces). So while it may clear through a twig better than, say, allstars, it still wont do the best job of it.
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Posted 22 December 2008 - 11:50 PM

View Postblackrain, on Dec 22 2008, 06:15 AM, said:

For real detail on the Phantom, I would Call Mike at CCI. He has given me Measurments over the yrs. He's a nice guy and the real expert on the Phantom. He will not hesitate to help you out.
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View PostKrazy8, on Dec 22 2008, 06:00 PM, said:

The Phantom performs best on one kind of paint...it really is surprizing to most people.

Round.

That is it. If the paint is round then the Phantom likes it.

Funny thing is...every paintball gun I have ever shot liked round paint! Performed the best that way.

I knew I could count on you Krazy8 - haha!
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Posted 23 December 2008 - 12:41 AM

hi, love the show vortex,
i have tried out bored out barrels which accept freak inserts, it looks like the stock barrel
and recently i got a full freak kit and i noticed i was getting roll out with a .689
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Posted 23 December 2008 - 11:22 AM

Funny thing is...I shoot really cheap paint. Nel-Splat....the brown box. Our local distributor keeps it very well tended and only orders small batches to assure fresh paint...it is always round and shoots great!

Why spend the extra money for Evil, Xball, Marbs, AllStars when my NelSPlat works just as well due to a paint supplier who cares about the game!


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Posted 23 December 2008 - 11:33 AM

I'm the same way with Karnage. It's made locally so it's always fresh and you aren't paying for a brand name. Interestingly there are several times more brands of paintballs than there are gel encapsulating machines devoted to making paintballs. A lot of paint you get is simply relabeled for different companies.

A lot of people fall for the "breaks on target not in gun". If it has a hard shell it has a hard shell. There's nothing they can do to engineer it to only break on certain substances. To be honest most paint as long as it is fresh will shoot about the same. It's just a matter of finding the shell thickness you like, with the fill you like, at a price you can afford.
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:56 PM

More round paint doesn't break in gun. More brittle paint breaks on target. Now, a brittle paint will break in gun more often, but a more round paint doesn't break any more or less on target.

There's a little bit more to it, from a theoretical physics side of things, but pretty much, higher quality more brittle paint will break on target more often and in gun less often than cheap, tough shelled paint that's off-round.
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Posted 27 December 2008 - 01:18 PM

using a .688 Dye ultralite matching anno . Way mo' quiet than stock ... both 14"

Ultimate Chronic in the stock and UL works fine for me . no rollouts ,,,it don't bounce and it is round too ...

thought i was the only one that used the round stuff...weird ?

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 10:24 PM

Thanks for all the great responses.
I'll post up when the review and interview are ready.
I will be eager for your feedback.
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Posted 27 December 2008 - 11:53 PM

To be honest I'm really glad we could make a difference. Can't wait to see it.
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Posted 29 January 2009 - 10:25 PM

The final interview with Mr. Casady was released a few days ago. Here is a link:

BRWP Episode 099

Thanks again, for all your input.
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Posted 30 January 2009 - 02:32 AM

View PostVORTEX, on Jan 29 2009, 10:25 PM, said:

The final interview with Mr. Casady was released a few days ago. Here is a link:

BRWP Episode 099

Thanks again, for all your input.


This is AWSOME. Every Phantom owner should be required to listen to this. It will only make you love Mike more.

I suggest that this is added to the pump sticky.

Thanks a bunch BRWP!
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Posted 30 January 2009 - 07:34 AM

1. 691

2. Visible impact, RPS (premium etc), Nelson...

3. i have a 6" and an 11" and they are closely similar in performance





feedback: that show is awesome, ive only herd the one on the link but i think im hooked

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