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Poll: Barrel Length (65 member(s) have cast votes)

Where do you draw the line?

  1. 10" (1 votes [1.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.54%

  2. 12" (10 votes [15.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.38%

  3. 14" (36 votes [55.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.38%

  4. 16" (12 votes [18.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.46%

  5. 18" (3 votes [4.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.62%

  6. Other (Explain) (3 votes [4.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.62%

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Post icon  Posted 24 April 2009 - 10:36 PM

Hey, I have heard many discussions on other threads regarding this topic so I figured I would make it official. Where do you guys think a barrels length is more than whats needed? Vote, then say what u think about the length of barrels, happy posting :happy:

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 10:53 PM

Well in my opinion you only really need a minimum 8 inches of unported length. I believe Airgun Designs ran a test on their Automags and found 10-11 inches to be the most efficient. CO2 expands a bit slower in cold weather, so 12-14'' barrels can still be rather efficient. Longer lengths reduce air efficiency. Shorter lengths reduce air efficiency even more.

As for accuracy, it all depends. Most barrels are all pretty close - even the fixed 6'' barrels on old school PGPs shoot about as accurately as any other marker.

More porting is quieter, but will reduce air efficiency - especially if it eats into those first 8 inches. It's mostly about finding a length you're comfortable playing with.
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Posted 24 April 2009 - 11:51 PM

Personally i prefer a 10"-12" barrel. Any longer and i feel like i am shooting with a broomstick or cane. No lie. The extra 2" on a 14" barrel makes it seem excessively long to me. I can't stand it. Has to be 12" or under. It is sad that 2" makes that much difference, but it does, to me at least.
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 05:56 AM

16" is my absolute max. But I usually use a 14" barrel, my favorite being my Redz Pepperstick. 8 inches of unported, then six inches of ported. So nice and quiet on my SP1.

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 07:28 AM

I strongly prefer 10-12" but I do have an exception - the airow gun.

Unlike most markers, the ball actually does need the full length of that ridiculous barrel to get up to speed because of the unique function of the design (I spoke to the guys who designed it @ D-Day). As it stands, it's not horrible, just bulky and there for fun (and I do have a lot of fun, forces stealth over joining the main gunfight).
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 07:45 AM

Well....I voted 14 'cause that's the biggest one I have. I know nothing on the science side, but I needed at least that length to make my marker look right. It is on my rifle that I made from an old shotgun stock. (You all remember it I'm sure ;) )
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 07:54 AM

View PostI.K.E., on Apr 25 2009, 09:45 AM, said:

Well....I voted 14 'cause that's the biggest one I have. I know nothing on the science side, but I needed at least that length to make my marker look right. It is on my rifle that I made from an old shotgun stock. (You all remember it I'm sure ;) )



14 feet? Get a photo! You broke the old known record of 3' ! (and yes, I have a photo of that one somewhere - Palmer's shop had it as a gag).

I know what you meant, just had to give you a hard time (in a joking way of course).



Don't worry about the science, because it's been done, and really, length of the paintball barrel (within reason - 6-8" or longer barrel) is pretty insignificant to everything but what you feel comfortable using.

Is a longer barrel less efficient? Technically yes, but you probably won't notice it, as it'll only be a few shots (literally I'd guess 5 or less, certainly no more than 10 at worst, worst case).

Length is effectively non-issue.
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 08:16 AM

View PostThalion, on Apr 25 2009, 09:54 AM, said:

View PostI.K.E., on Apr 25 2009, 09:45 AM, said:

Well....I voted 14 'cause that's the biggest one I have. I know nothing on the science side, but I needed at least that length to make my marker look right. It is on my rifle that I made from an old shotgun stock. (You all remember it I'm sure ;) )



14 feet? Get a photo! You broke the old known record of 3' ! (and yes, I have a photo of that one somewhere - Palmer's shop had it as a gag).

I know what you meant, just had to give you a hard time (in a joking way of course).

Don't worry about the science, because it's been done, and really, length of the paintball barrel (within reason - 6-8" or longer barrel) is pretty insignificant to everything but what you feel comfortable using.

Is a longer barrel less efficient? Technically yes, but you probably won't notice it, as it'll only be a few shots (literally I'd guess 5 or less, certainly no more than 10 at worst, worst case).

Length is effectively non-issue.


HAHAHA Notice the space between 14 and the next word. The apostrophe was to indicate that I had taken the BE off of because. :laugh: I should have put the quotation to indicate inches as well. HAHAHAHA

Anyway, thanks. Jokes are good, and I agree with your assessment on the barrel length. It seems to be the same argument as the one over accuracy improvements. You can spend loads of cash trying to get more accuracy out of your marker, but I don't think that in the end there will be dramatic differences between one marker and another. Changing from a J&J to a Palmers may show an improvement, but how much difference is there really?
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 08:30 AM

View PostI.K.E., on Apr 25 2009, 10:16 AM, said:

HAHAHA Notice the space between 14 and the next word. The apostrophe was to indicate that I had taken the BE off of because. ;) I should have put the quotation to indicate inches as well. HAHAHAHA


Ouch, I was sure I had the grammar cop.


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Anyway, thanks. Jokes are good, and I agree with your assessment on the barrel length. It seems to be the same argument as the one over accuracy improvements. You can spend loads of cash trying to get more accuracy out of your marker, but I don't think that in the end there will be dramatic differences between one marker and another. Changing from a J&J to a Palmers may show an improvement, but how much difference is there really?


There are three big factors to paintball efficiency: consistency of marker, quality of paint, and paint/bore matching (whether you subscribe to the "overbore a little" or the "exact match" is open to debate, but we understand there is some relation to paint/bore matching, even if it's not 1:1)

As for how much difference from J&J to Palmers, I'd have to test it to answer the question intelligently.

I just tend to stick around .689-.691 barrels (Lapco mostly, but I have other barrels) and it generally works OK. Paint has always been the biggest factor I've noticed.

I've thought about buying a full blown Freak kit, but I'm not positive that it'll be that much better. That, and I don't consistently use the same marker enough to justify that expense (I have 3 main markers, one of which is a fixed barrel and the other is a Tiberius, so the freak kit can only apply to my semi).
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 08:47 AM

View PostThalion, on Apr 25 2009, 10:30 AM, said:

View PostI.K.E., on Apr 25 2009, 10:16 AM, said:

HAHAHA Notice the space between 14 and the next word. The apostrophe was to indicate that I had taken the BE off of because. :laugh: I should have put the quotation to indicate inches as well. HAHAHAHA


Ouch, I was sure I had the grammar cop.




Well...you DID point out a slight ambiguity in my post. :D ;)
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 02:58 PM

I draw the line at 14 inches. anything longer and it makes it hard to move quickly in urban fields, which is why I always keep my 8 inch with me.
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 03:44 PM

Longest I've ever gone is 16, but 14 is my comfort zone. A sixteen helps you eye guide the shot a little more, so it looks more accurate. But a nice 14 inch barrel is going to shoot as straight (provided bore and paint match up.)
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 07:19 PM

My limit is 14", that seems to be the perfect balance, although the MAX limit id say is 16", after that it just gets to be rediculous.

Funny story: My noob friend was going to get a new barrel, I said "Who makes it", he said, "Smart Parts", I said, "How long is it", and he says "22 inches", I said, "Y would you want a barrel that long?", he said, "More accuracy", LOL :evil: :evil: :wacko:


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Posted 25 April 2009 - 07:26 PM

Anything above 14" just feels weird to me.
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Posted 25 April 2009 - 11:38 PM

It seems like the general consensus is that 14" is the average maximum length most people prefer. For the first few years that I played paintball I used a 16" barrel on a Tippmann A-5. While it was fairly accurate, I got very tired of constantly hitting my barrel on tree's, limbs, and the ground while sprinting through the woods. Since then, I have switched to a 14" Invert Nightstick (Carbon Fiber) on my A-5 and absolutely :heart: it. It's actually more accurate, consistent, and air efficient than my 16" had ever been. Not only that, but the biggest thing is that I don't have issues hitting every object I run by with my barrel. So I guess with all of that said, you know that I am definitely for anything 14" or under.
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