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#1 User is offline   SWATORNOT 

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Posted 27 October 2007 - 05:21 PM

Well it is coming time for me to rebuild my paintball gear so i can get back into the game again. I am not looking for the "best woodsball" or the "best speedball" marker. I want to sling some paint, and I want something light, and something away from the mil-sim spectrum I was so accustom to. I am looking into the Proto Rail as a good candidate for my new purchase. I was considering purchasing an Ion, but I don't know that is what I really want.

Those of you who own the Rail, what if any issues have you had, or do I need to be aware of with this marker? The other question I have is how efficient is this compared to an Ion (air efficiency). I am planning to run some sort of a 4500psi tank, unsure of the size just yet, but having previously owned a 45, I wouldn't have anything less.


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Posted 27 October 2007 - 05:35 PM

Are you going to buy new or used? If you are going to buy used, I would suggest an alien interceptor or alien remains. in my opinion, alien > pmr.
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Posted 27 October 2007 - 05:37 PM

View PostMatt, on Oct 27 2007, 06:35 PM, said:

Are you going to buy new or used? If you are going to buy used, I would suggest an alien interceptor or alien remains. in my opinion, alien > pmr.

I am buying all new gear, sorry I didn't specify that in original posting.
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Posted 27 October 2007 - 05:49 PM

View PostMONITOR, on Oct 27 2007, 05:37 PM, said:

View PostMatt, on Oct 27 2007, 06:35 PM, said:

Are you going to buy new or used? If you are going to buy used, I would suggest an alien interceptor or alien remains. in my opinion, alien > pmr.

I am buying all new gear, sorry I didn't specify that in original posting.


ok, I just saw on Alien's site that a new ceptor is about the cost of a pmr new. Here is a link http://www.alienpb.c...s/products.html

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?p=3...89#post32669289 <-- reasons why I think you should get an alien over a pmr.

if you do decide to get the alien, go with the 400 dollar one with the cp reg. cp reg is soo much better than the alien reg that comes on the 350 dollar version. i believe the only difference between the 2 is the reg. also, check out www.alienog.com for a lot of helpful information
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Posted 27 October 2007 - 06:09 PM

Thanks for the links Matt. I am trying to keep the budget on a new marker under $300, $350 was as high as I was really willing to go over that budget. It seems as though a lot of the complaints on the Rail are that it seems to have a "cheap" feel to the components. My thoughts now are, would the Ion be a more suitable choice given the budget I am working with?
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Posted 27 October 2007 - 06:14 PM

The ion would probably be a better choice given your budget. It is not the best, but it works. With the right up grades, you can get them to be nice little shooters at a decent price. I think though that Ions are money pits. For example, say you get a stock ion. People suggest you get a QEV, forgot why though. Than you also want to get a new barrel. than maybe people suggest you get a new trigger. If you want an ion, I would really suggest you look in the PbN b/s/t section for one. you can find alot with a good amount of upgrades at a very cheap price compared to if you bought it and all the upgrades new.
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Posted 27 October 2007 - 09:57 PM

Wait for the Proto SLG?

There's pics and info on this part of the forums.
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Posted 27 October 2007 - 10:09 PM

I love mine. I bought i used off ebay for $320. no problems so far except with the trinity feedneck that came with it. sucker snapped right in half one day and it was a pain to get it out. Im not sure about effiency bc my only other gun was a tippmann.

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Posted 27 October 2007 - 10:49 PM

View PostMONITOR, on Oct 27 2007, 09:09 PM, said:

Thanks for the links Matt. I am trying to keep the budget on a new marker under $300, $350 was as high as I was really willing to go over that budget. It seems as though a lot of the complaints on the Rail are that it seems to have a "cheap" feel to the components. My thoughts now are, would the Ion be a more suitable choice given the budget I am working with?


You may want to wait a week or so for the new Ion replacement to come out. SP is also release some new electros that are very similar to the Ion (plain exterior) that are in the $150 range.
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Posted 28 October 2007 - 10:33 AM

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Posted 28 October 2007 - 11:54 AM

I bought a PMR off of ebay in June for 300 switching up from an A5, and the difference was phenomenal. Only problem I've had so far is when i got it, the bolt was missing an O-Ring but that was a quick fix. People take about the "polymer" being weak, but unless you're severely overweight and plan to do cartwheels while holding your gun i don't fore-see this being a problem. I absolutely love mine and have recommended it to everyone whose asked. So I've had it for nearly 5 months and haven't felt the need to upgrade anything. Efficiency is mediocre, on mine I get about 1400 at least off of a 70/45. But I've heard both ends of the spectrum from different people. all in all I've been really happy with it and it was money well spent.
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Posted 28 October 2007 - 12:32 PM

View PostMONITOR, on Oct 27 2007, 07:09 PM, said:

Thanks for the links Matt. I am trying to keep the budget on a new marker under $300, $350 was as high as I was really willing to go over that budget. It seems as though a lot of the complaints on the Rail are that it seems to have a "cheap" feel to the components. My thoughts now are, would the Ion be a more suitable choice given the budget I am working with?


Have a look at the Dangerous Power Fusion. They're only about $350, maybe less, and they're better than Rails IMO.
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Posted 28 October 2007 - 01:32 PM

just gotta suport my Etek fanboyism, so i'll just throw this out there....If you're willing to spend the extra 300$ or so, you could get an Etek. The 600$ you would spend is worth it. If not, go with the fusion or the Proto PMR/SLG. The SLG will be priced at around 250$, while i believe the PMR is currently at 400$(correct me?). I would definately consider the SLG. *cough*ortheEtek*cough*
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Posted 28 October 2007 - 02:15 PM

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Have a look at the Dangerous Power Fusion. They're only about $350, maybe less, and they're better than Rails IMO


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just gotta suport my Etek fanboyism, so i'll just throw this out there....If you're willing to spend the extra 300$ or so, you could get an Etek. The 600$ you would spend is worth it. If not, go with the fusion or the Proto PMR/SLG. The SLG will be priced at around 250$, while i believe the PMR is currently at 400$(correct me?). I would definately consider the SLG. *cough*ortheEtek*cough*


i would definately get a fusion. you can find them here at $325:
www.crazyballer.com

all you need to do to maintain the fusion is to take the ram cap [quarter turn] and pull out the ram and spring. clean them and relube, and then put it back together. it also gets a whopping 1800 shots per 68/4500 [conservative amount].

BTW, do you have a good hopper and HPA tank?
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Posted 28 October 2007 - 09:11 PM

If you really have to stay under $300..

I own a PMR and love it.. my only complaint is that I occasionally get a paint break on the
eyes.. and have to shut them off during a game (easy to do) and then clean them with a
cue tip when its over...

I personally wouldn't recommend an ion over a rail. If you look at ebay, you can get
a Rail, Invert mini, or fusion for $300 (new) or less.. I would look there.

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