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#31 User is offline   ghostinthewood 

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 08:44 AM

Shoot I dunno, it just seems to work better.
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 06:42 AM

you let it half out because you can hold your breath longer when you have air in your lungs than if you dont have any (ie. breathing all the way out)

and ghost, those are some sweet pics man. i gotta try some of those next time i go out; which whould be, in like, 15 miunutes. ;) geuss im glad i found this forum when i did, eh?

and you were easy to see in the first one, because for some reason you just stuck out. it was your head, but i think if you ahd goggles and goggleflauge on it woulda been pretty hard. i cant really say anything about the other pics cause the link isnt working for me. :o
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Posted 19 July 2005 - 12:11 AM

WHAT!?!? Well i think i moved them to a different album, check out my newest thread in the Gallery, there's better pics in there anyway.
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Posted 20 July 2005 - 04:18 PM

ghostinthewood, on Jun 5 2005, 10:39 PM, said:

Lynnch, on Jun 5 2005, 10:11 PM, said:

I like it, good info, But:
A. how often do you get hit in the elbow with that milsim setup? I mean jeezus, its sticking way out
B. WHY IS THE FEEDNECK ON THAT SPYDER SOOO FRICKIN LONG?!?

A.I hardly every shoot standing, it would take too long to get off my gut. Gah i said to keep the elbow tucked in on my post but i didnt <_<

B.Its my bro's gun.Long story short, OSOK in the right spot broke it, and thats the only way it'd stay on. It could be a bit smaller but it wouldnt stay like that for 10seconds. That and i didnt push in the hopper all the way.


Fingerprints?

Also i havent worn my goggles in any ghillie pics :) Theres a stream in the pics(if its the ones Im thinkin of) behind the branches and everything, you may be seeing that.
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Either way, i have it covered ;)

dude what the hell, im sorry but i couldnt help laughing when i saw those pics, you look like gimli or something
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Posted 20 July 2005 - 08:30 PM

Well whatever it takes to get close nuff to hear the other person breathing . . .
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Posted 20 July 2005 - 08:48 PM

It's probably the speedball I've played, but you don't need to get into "recoil" positions like this always. They're stable, yes, but not 100% nessary.

You can 1-hand a gun when you're desperate, for example, and not worry about it's kick breaking your wrist. That being said, I don't recomend it.

What I try to do is angle the hopper twords my body to hide it in my shilouette. As long as you have a point of contact on the back (tank in shoulder, stock in shoulder) and a point of contact near the front (foregrip, gas thru stock), it really comes down to ergonomics. And for me, that means the gun is canted in. It also prevents the hopper from getting hit.

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Posted 21 July 2005 - 01:12 PM

Heh, never thought of angleing the hopper . . .
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Posted 30 July 2005 - 08:50 PM

heres another one if your at a short snake bunker you can lay down and do sit ups. just make sure you face mask is pushed against your chest or you could get shot in the neck
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 06:03 PM

Eh, this is mroe for the woods. If you were on a snake, although you'd want to mix it up, you'd want to come form the sides as its harder for somone to shoot a target moving sideways than it is one getting taller.
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Posted 17 November 2005 - 01:24 PM

man you make good ideas so seeing you i went to look back in my old war training manual!!!!!!!!! ;)

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Posted 30 November 2005 - 03:07 PM

You've got some good mods on your gun. That a flatline on your camoed over one?
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Posted 06 December 2005 - 12:18 PM

Yea its a flattie.
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Posted 12 March 2006 - 05:46 PM

View Postghostinthewood, on Jun 5 2005, 08:15 PM, said:

Hills

Shooting Uphill

Sit down and spread your legs

Lay your feet flat on the ground, but i like to dig my heels in cuz I figure it'd give me a bit more support.

Put your elbows on the insides of your knee, there should be a nice lil depression there.

Pull back on the gun with your free hand
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Shooting Downhill
Sit down and spread your legs

Dig your heel sinto the ground

Put your elbows on top of your knees this time

Pull back on the gun with your free hand
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Shooting from a tall object(tree)
Now even though this makes your a little bit more of a target and it takes a second to set-up, I'm really surprised that there isnt any using this...

Take a step forward

With your free hand place it on whatever tall object is in front of you. Spread your thumb out so its the only part of your hand that sticks away from the object, and place your gun between your thumb and your hand.

With your good hand, pull back on the gun.

Your good arm with flare out a bit more than the speedball set up, so its important you remember to keep it tucked in because of the stock. Especially now that your presenting more of yourself

You also will naturally hunch and shrug your shoulders a bit, its a nice idea to keep that in mind so you will always do it.
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my only critique is that when you are shooting around a tall object, you need to tuck in your right elbow. mkaes a bigger target sticking out like that
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Posted 13 March 2006 - 11:38 AM

here is something that is along these lines, might help supplement the above information. Been working on a manual for a long time, this is a small excerpt.

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Playing Tight with the Proper Platform

“Playing Tight” essentially means making your body as small a target as you can. There is no sure fire way to ensure that we don’t get hit, but we can mitigate those chances by making ourselves into a smaller target. Players will also develop good quick habits that will lead to more consistent and accurate shots. There are 8 keys to a good shooting platform, but of course not all them will apply in every situation. Some of them would only apply when you are standing or moving. Take for instance if you are kneeling behind a bunker, you needn’t be concerned about your feet as much but rather your knee and hip placement. If I were shooting around the right side of the bunker, I would want to “hip in” with my left hip and keep my right knee on the ground. Kneeling on both knees is not a practice that I encourage, ever. Although, some in speedball do teach players to play off both knees when fighting from behind cover and claim it is the correct way. But in my experience it is much faster to get up and run off one knee then when you are kneeling on two.


1)Your feet should be pointed forward. This will allow for quicker movement in any direction when reacting to enemy activity. Also, if you are shooting off your right side then your right foot should be to the rear with the majority of your weight on the balls of your right foot and vice versa when shooting off your left side. As you move, ensure that your weight transitions smoothly from one foot to the next. How you step will help substantially with the weight transition. When moving, set your heel down and gently roll your foot forward. Do not step flatfooted. This will lead to your muzzle rising and falling because of inconsistent movement.

2)Your knees should be bent. This is so for a couple of reasons. You want to be able to move and straightened legs don’t allow you to do that quickly, and you need to think of your legs as a suspension system., just like a car. They must be able to absorb the shock of any movement to keep your muzzle from rising or falling.

3)Keep your hips low. If a player focuses on keeping his hips low instead of slouching his back, they are more likely to keep their eyes up and their lungs open. But what’s most important here, is this will lead to increased stability because your center of gravity is lower. However, each player will want some amount of body lean, just use a comfortable amount in order to maximize efficiency.

4)Have your marker “at the ready”. This entails having the butt of your stock firmly in the pocket of your shoulder with your marker pointed at approximately a 45% - 80% angle towards the ground in front of you, scanning for hostiles, or the horizon. The greater the threat in your area of operation the closer to parallel your weapon should be. To accomplish putting your marker in the “ready position”, use the middle thru little finger to apply pressure and keep the stock firmly in position on your shoulder. Also, the index finger should remain off the trigger and on the trigger guard or pointing down the body of the weapon until you have acquired a target. This is a safety precaution so we only shoot what we intend too, and don’t pop off a shot and hit a teammate. Your index finger and your thumb should be pointing at the target.

5)When transitioning from the ready position to the firing position, raise the gun to your eyes, don’t lower your eyes to your gun. Also, the shooter should ensure that he has a proper stock weld. Stock weld is defined as the placement of the cheek in the same place on the stock with each shot. A change in stock weld will cause misalignment of the sights or improper eye relief, and could create misplaced or inconsistent shots.

6)Keep your elbows in tight. This will make the player a smaller target, especially when cornering. Remember your elbows should be pointing at the ground, and be close too and in front of your body.

7)When moving, stay under control. No Running! Of course there are exceptions to this rule, but the player who stays calm and keeps their body from moving erratically will make more consistent shots.

8)Stay Loose. Move with fluidity, do not play with your body rigid and tense. This will cause a tendency to move erratically when the unexpected happens, which almost always does.

When practicing, following these simple platform rules and really focusing your efforts on them will help to make your movement, and shooting almost mechanical. Not mechanical in the rigid sense, but in the efficient-rehearsed sense.

A3. Shooting Switch

Shooting switch is defined as being able to shoot with both hands and off both shoulders. An unconfident and/or unskilled shooter will compromise themselves and their team by limiting their shooting to one side. Shooting switch becomes particularly important when cornering, or when you are required to cover a flank while traveling. For example, lets say a player wanted to shoot around the left side of a bunker, but only shoots off their right side. When they lean out to the left to fire they expose a substantially larger portion of their body to the enemy, thus becoming a bigger, better, and more lucrative target. There are two solutions for this problem, don’t shoot around the left side, or learn to fire off both sides by shooting switch. Apply the same fundamentals in section A1 to shooting of both sides of your body.
There are two keys to shooting switch. The first is training your eyes. Because of one eye being dominant, you will most likely not be able to focus down the sights correctly. To remedy this put tape on the dominant side of some shooting glasses and practice shooting with your secondary side. This technique will strengthen the muscles in your eye and allow you to use both eyes when firing. Another technique that can be used to combat eye dominance is squinting your dominant eye as you look down your sights allowing your secondary eye to focus. The second key to firing switch is repetition, repetition, repetition! Practice makes perfect. There are very few of us who are ambidextrous and even they need to practice this to gain proficiency and become confident shooters.


hope this was helpful, any comments or additional thoughts are appreciated as the manual is a work in progess. thanx
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Posted 13 March 2006 - 12:54 PM

i think i may have found u in thoses picks that u took in the woods
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