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is the smart parts Sp8 worth it

#1 User is offline   wrestler71 

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 02:29 PM

i have been thinking of buying the smart part's SP8 and was wondering if it is worth it.
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Posted 17 March 2008 - 02:39 PM

View Postwrestler71, on Mar 17 2008, 02:29 PM, said:

i have been thinking of buying the smart part's SP8 and was wondering if it is worth it.


Its just an ION in a plastic body shell. In my person opinion, it feels cheap. From the foregrip with the plastic weaver rails to the weak 6 position stock. I had one, with all the ups. Ill be honest, it ripped like a mad man. But the reason I sold it is because of the cheap feeling. Felt like i was going to break it.

If you REALLY want an ION based marker, id suggest... an ION. You can get a used one with ups for fairly cheap now and you can add a deadly winds tac body to it along with a T2W Stock. Best part of that set up is you can remove the stock and you can have a nice little marker for speedball. An ION is going to be a smaller tighter package over the SP8 with more customizable options.

But its all up to you and what feels good to you.

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 02:40 PM

or save even more money and get an sp-1 =')
it's got tons of stocks (any 98 custom)
full auto, three shot, and semi,
light, durable, and cheap at $150

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 02:42 PM

View PostEVERETTB2002@AOL.COM, on Mar 17 2008, 02:40 PM, said:

or save even more money and get an sp-1 =')
it's got tons of stocks (any 98 custom)
full auto, three shot, and semi,
light, durable, and cheap at $150


true but arnt those blind? dont they have a rip off agd lvl 10 system? im not up to date on the sp1, so my apologizes if im misinformed. although he does have a good point, it already has the "milsim" body for far cheaper.

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 04:18 PM

View Postnomarkersinbaghdad, on Mar 17 2008, 02:42 PM, said:

View PostEVERETTB2002@AOL.COM, on Mar 17 2008, 02:40 PM, said:

or save even more money and get an sp-1 =')
it's got tons of stocks (any 98 custom)
full auto, three shot, and semi,
light, durable, and cheap at $150


true but arnt those blind? dont they have a rip off agd lvl 10 system? im not up to date on the sp1, so my apologizes if im misinformed. although he does have a good point, it already has the "milsim" body for far cheaper.


here is my review from somewhere else.

I am an SP8 user, let me give a review.

I have been using an SP8 for 2 years. I have an A5, X7 e-griped with mods, and an e-tek ego. I have also used Bobby Longs and other high end electros.

My SP-8
Ion Firebolt
Ion APE rampage board
SP 360 QEV
Killa Detents
Stealth Barrel Kit
SP8 Stock

My overall impression of a stock SP8 7.5/10

Strengths:

Looks- different colors, usually you get some oohhs and ahhss, I have my decked out with scope and laser. I love the look, although it depends on your taste.

Ion Internals- Because it has mainly Ion parts, the aftermarket is pretty extensive. I have an Rampage board and I can switch between full auto/ramping/sem-auto pretty quickly. The stock ion board isn't bad at all, you can ramp to 16 bps no problem with a bolt/qev upgrade. You cannot switch modes easily though.

Eyes-Now that I use electros there is no way I will buy another marker that does not have eyes. Eyes prevent breaks by detecting the ball, that's HUGE. I hate ball breaks, that basically can make you ineffective for a lot of a game. With a Tipmann X7 even modding the detents, getting squishy paddles, and a new rachet I still break balls on full auto. I have shot 4 cases of paint this year through the SP8 without breaking one ball, on full auto, 18 bps!

Barrel: The stock barrel is ok, warpig has done an extensive review of the CEP and its not bad. I have the stealth barrel kit, it makes the gun very quiet. The accuracy is acceptable but not as good as a freak barrel kit. I believe the sizing for the stealth barrel kit is about a .693

Electro- Again, the stock board is good for most players, can ramp quite easily. I have played in a rainstorm at SPPL with it and it performed fine.

Weaknesses:

Hopper- Obviously, you need some force feed loader for it, that's another 90 bucks at least. The torque loader is a decent loader that's about 90 bucks that can feed 30 balls per second. The other weakness is it has to sit high, increasing profile height even compared to other electros

Feedneck - The biggest weakness, it's plastic, everyone has cracked a feedneck with the SP-8. There are some quick fixes but even then it still sucks. Not only does it increase your profile but it breaks because of the weight. I have modded my feedneck: cutting in half and using expoxy to reinforce and so far no problems.

Durability- Feedneck is part of it, but there appears there is a carrying handle, do not carry it by there!. It'll break, so not as durable as a Tippy. Unfortunately, most of the body is plastic to reduce weight/cost, so there are some parts of the SP-8 are not as durable as I would like.

Field Stripping- Not the easiet compared to an Ego or a Spyder. I work on cars so taking my SP8 apart to me is like cake, but the SP8 may not suit certain people's tastes. To get to the breach and the bolt you have to take apart the plastic shell and disconnect the board, all with a screwdriver and allen wrench.

Summary:

I use the SP-8 as my primary because of looks and its a mil-sim electro. I can pump 18 rounds or more if necessary at my opponents and not break a ball. I can always get an Apex adapter on a palmers brass to compete with the flatlines. very happy with gun!
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Posted 17 March 2008 - 04:22 PM

I love my SP8. The only thing that feels weak on it is the feedneck, but I am yet to snap one with my halo sitting high atop my marker. The tall feedneck is just about the only weakness I can think of with this marker. The SP8, along with the stock and the stock foregrip feels excellent in my hands. The suppressor barrel in my opinion is not worth it because it is so damn long, but this may not bother others. It is quiet, on the other hand.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 11:28 AM

I just got a used SP-8 a few weeks ago though I haven't played with it yet. The marker is bulky but has a nice feel to it. I'm not crazy about the angled feedneck. I think the marker is perfect for a Q-loader if you like that type of setup. The stock barrel looks cool but its a brick. The plastic definitely becomes weaker with age...you won't see many of these around in 5-10 years. Also, I've heard that SP has officially discontinued the SP-8. I'm very hopeful that SP will continue to make more milsim markers though. I definitely prefer a tactical ION but the SP-1 can't match the Sp-8 in my opinion.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 11:37 AM

View PostCrewChief, on Mar 18 2008, 11:28 AM, said:

I just got a used SP-8 a few weeks ago though I haven't played with it yet. The marker is bulky but has a nice feel to it. I'm not crazy about the angled feedneck. I think the marker is perfect for a Q-loader if you like that type of setup. The stock barrel looks cool but its a brick. The plastic definitely becomes weaker with age...you won't see many of these around in 5-10 years. Also, I've heard that SP has officially discontinued the SP-8. I'm very hopeful that SP will continue to make more milsim markers though. I definitely prefer a tactical ION but the SP-1 can't match the Sp-8 in my opinion.


agreed, the SP-1 internals in my opinion took a step backwards. I love ramping/full auto, why they never included it in the SP-1 I will never figure out......
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 01:29 PM

SP-1 has the low force bolt or lvl 10 bolt (same difference) so it wont chop no need for eyes. It also has 3 round burst and full auto but is still not as fast as an Ion or SP-8. Also the blow out back makes it much easier to maintain then the SP-8, so in my opinion the SP-1 is the better marker even if it cannot achive the higher ROF like the SP-8.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 03:54 PM

It's not better, it's all about preference. If you like to shoot ropes nice and quiet, and don't mind a little occasional maintnence, the SP8 is for you. SP1 is a great marker except it shoots slower and it's going to be much louder than the SP8 since the SP8 is a true electropnuematic and the SP1 is still a blowback.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 04:04 PM

SP-1 is not a blowback it is electropneumatic like the Ion or SP-8. But it's all just personal preference, I just stated my opinion.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 08:25 PM

View PostMadChild, on Mar 18 2008, 04:04 PM, said:

SP-1 is not a blowback it is electropneumatic like the Ion or SP-8. But it's all just personal preference, I just stated my opinion.


What upgrades for the SP-1 remains to be seen. To me, the eyes make a huge difference. I am not an expert, but being able to ramp/fire at 16 bps no problem is important to me. With no eyes you greatly increase your chances of chopping at higher rates of fire. Hence that is why most high end electros have eyes.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 09:24 PM

I love my SP8, but I just have too many guns. It's very reliable, the only problems I've ever had require a change of batteries. So that said; I have a used SP8 well loved with the stock a sight and extra feenecks PM me if you're interested.


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Posted 18 March 2008 - 09:58 PM

Again it dosent need eyes in my opinion because of the low force bolt it wont chop the paint, go watch the videos on SP website. It performs like a lvl10 bolt of an automag if you have seen one of those. As for upgrades it's still a fairly new gun so there are not alot Trinity has a new trigger for it and a blackheart board is coming soon but I wouldnt sink too many upgrades into this type of gun when if you spend too much you could have just gotten a Mini or some other mid level marker.

I'm not trying to knock the SP-8 or anything, i'm just saying in my opinion I think an SP-1 is better cheaper and the Ion would be the best option.
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Posted 19 March 2008 - 04:01 AM

View PostagentM192, on Mar 18 2008, 06:54 PM, said:

It's not better, it's all about preference. If you like to shoot ropes nice and quiet, and don't mind a little occasional maintnence, the SP8 is for you. SP1 is a great marker except it shoots slower and it's going to be much louder than the SP8 since the SP8 is a true electropnuematic and the SP1 is still a blowback.


SP-1 is just as quiet as the ION/SP-8 and is also a true low-pressure electropnuematic just like the ION/SP-8. At 11bps, I agree, its not exactly a rope-shooter but more than enough to be effective in scenario play.

Also, even though it has no eyes, it never chops and will even shoot the crappy paint that gives other markers fits.. The low-force bolt is not just hype, it actually works. I've put many cases of paint through my SP-1 have never yet had a break in the breach..

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