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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:05 AM

I've heard people use the term "dagger", "saber", etc. What do they mean?
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:07 AM

What? is this joke... I guess not... Look under Specialopspaintball.com/articles
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:07 AM

View Postkook, on Jun 12 2007, 01:05 PM, said:

I've heard people use the term "dagger", "saber", etc. What do they mean?


I think you're are serious so i will help :D

They are the names of the spec ops positions. When you go to the home page look for a tab that says positions, click it. I think it WAS my favorite thing about this site and it offers A LOT of good advice and playing tips.
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:11 AM

SOP positions.

Check the link out. It'll exlain everything.

It kinda describes a person's style of play.


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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:13 AM

You guys are alot nicer then me.
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:22 AM

View Postdrumboy, on Jun 12 2007, 01:13 PM, said:

You guys are alot nicer then me.



Well you're probably at that stage when you get tired of new members' posts and reading the same things over and over. After a little while longer here you'll realize it all part of the big picture and it won't go away.

Then you'll get to welcome them more. At that stage then todays newbies will be where you are now and beating up the newbies that join around October. -- and you'll be where I'm at.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:25 AM

Those are the names used to describe the different SpecialOps positions. :D Slinky posted a good link, check that out. That should tell you everything you need to know.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:59 AM

Keep in mind they are essentially useless. I believe that these "positions" are more detrimental to a beginning player then anything. They adapt their mind set to be the "ultimate saber" or whatever position they picked. They then buy all the gear that goes a long with the position and what not and ultimately hinder their ability to adapt to and learn the sport. You don't know how many times I've been on a field, asked a kid to do something like "take the right flank" and he complains that he can't because he's only a heavy gunner... Ridiculous.

I guess it's all brilliance in the mind of marketing, but in the realm of true paintball, it's a hinderence.
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 11:16 AM

Thanks. I get it. There just names for positions. I was confused because I've heard people say "I made my gun a dagger". I thought it was a gun type and that got me all confused

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 11:37 AM

it almost is a gun type. or rather, a gun genre. a dagger is usually light, a hammer is usually huge.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 11:41 AM

View PostCB-AARON, on Jun 12 2007, 12:59 PM, said:

Keep in mind they are essentially useless. I believe that these "positions" are more detrimental to a beginning player then anything. They adapt their mind set to be the "ultimate saber" or whatever position they picked. They then buy all the gear that goes a long with the position and what not and ultimately hinder their ability to adapt to and learn the sport. You don't know how many times I've been on a field, asked a kid to do something like "take the right flank" and he complains that he can't because he's only a heavy gunner... Ridiculous.

I guess it's all brilliance in the mind of marketing, but in the realm of true paintball, it's a hinderence.

See, I totally agree with you man. See, I usually play Saber, right? And for a while I was sticking true to that, but when I realized that I wasn't flexible enough, I ditched all the names and at the start of every game I acted totally differently. For example, the other day I was mainly playing back, right? But when I was putting down covering fire and telling my team to move up, none of them did. So I just took off and ran all the way across the field to grab the flag, winning the game for my team. Good times.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 11:47 AM

View PostCB-AARON, on Jun 12 2007, 01:59 PM, said:

Keep in mind they are essentially useless. I believe that these "positions" are more detrimental to a beginning player then anything. They adapt their mind set to be the "ultimate saber" or whatever position they picked. They then buy all the gear that goes a long with the position and what not and ultimately hinder their ability to adapt to and learn the sport. You don't know how many times I've been on a field, asked a kid to do something like "take the right flank" and he complains that he can't because he's only a heavy gunner... Ridiculous.

I guess it's all brilliance in the mind of marketing, but in the realm of true paintball, it's a hinderence.



I appreciated your post, CB-AARON.

I guess maybe I don't have enough gutts / understanding--as you do--to completely bash those positions, but I have often thought / wondered the same thing about those named positions and the need to have special equipment to play those special roles.

I have played a lot of paintball over the last 6 years, as I have been hosting large group paintball matches for youth groups and some adult group for those six year, and for the last three years, I have started an offical incorporated business to continue running a paintball rental field but to also start doing some retailing, as well. And with all of this experience of playing with various groups of different ages and skill levels, I have never seen those position emerge as specific roles as it is often spoken of on this forum.

But, I thought it was just my lack of understanding . . . and maybe that is exactly what it is. Who knows?!?

It is just refreshing to hear someone who is willing to step out from the crowd and share their thoughts . . . thoughts that, in this case, were thoughts that I was having, too.
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 12:00 PM

it all comes down to marketing

think about it if you create a product say xyz then create a group of elites that use xyz then you can stamp the letters xyz on anything and sell it for more thatn its worth

thats what the posistions come down to look at all the products special ops sells for there posistions.

why not just say im a paintballer dont label me
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 12:29 PM

This has been a good discussion . . . thanks for getting it started, kook.
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Posted 12 June 2007 - 02:00 PM

True enough to the marketing strategy as it is an excellent move, but if you read the articles they do provide some good information for new players. In the end though they all say the same thing. Shoot the other team, Don't get shot, and if you are shot figure out why so you can repeat step 1.

I personally like the positions as it adds another element to the game, but only if the people playing have played paintball for a while and actually know that they fit the criteria for certain positions. Either than that it's just politics and marketing. :ghillie:
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