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#31 User is offline   Lt.Col.Vortex 

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 04:37 PM

I dont think anyone is really ready, but I'm always working towards that. I'm confident in my abilities, and its backed with experience( real world experience).

And yah, its high altitude burst that'll be first and the most. I dont think any one is gona nuke like we did to Japan, only just to knock out coms.

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So, you're a thug. Defending something you have is one thing. "Taking what you need" without regard for methods is thuggery. PW hit this already, so I'll leave it at that, other than to say I shoot thugs in the post-EOTW scenario.


And i wasn't gona go into this much, main;y because its more of a personal ethics thing, but I see I'll have to clear my name....hopefully.

Our plan is to get as far away from people as possible( in this case, the desert, specifically Texas...if i told you where I'd have to shoot you :)...jk). A person is kinda, smart, inelegant, but people are stupid, dangerous,and cannibalistic, and thats what we're leaving. We want to live off our own land, and eat grow we grow/kill. And by all rights we are living. Now say for some reason someone endangers us( this means causing imitate harm to our family), we have the right to stop them( take the last sentence however you want, I cant go much deeper than that on a public source). And also say for some reason we are facing imitate death if we dont find..shelter,food,ect..we will take what we need. THis dose not mean not having self morals. If there is an old lady with one chicken and one tomato plant, obviously leave her alone. But a corn field or whatever, thats another story. Its not wrong to take what you need to survive( to take what is not yours to be greedy or take stuff for pleasure is something else).

This is my morals( extremely short version), so its not meant for you to either like,understand or even agree with.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 10:33 AM

I don't think anyone here disagrees with your right to defend yourself, your family, or your possessions and property, but comments suggesting that you are willing to abuse that same right of others was something that most people here won't tolerate. It doesn't make you sound tough, it makes you sound like a thug. If you think your ethics or morals have been called into question, that was of your own doing. When/if poop ever hits the fan, the tough people will not be the ones living day to day by stealing from or living off of others, but those who work at restoring civilization, order, and hope in the face of so much challenge and hardship. Yes, we need to be prepared to fend for ourselves until order is restored, but at some point or another, we will crawl from the wreckage and unite in rebuilding society. Until that time, looters and pillagers can expect to be shot on sight, and unfortunately, if you represent yourself as a thug, you'll probably be among the first to go because no one is going to call 9/11 to report an intruder...they're going to take care of that for themselves.

In the relative scheme of things, an EMP is more of an inconvenience than other catastrophes or disasters that might befall us that might cause mass destruction, change the environment, or poison it. For many electrical items, all you have to do is shield them, or remove/disconnect power supplys. Relays and semiconductor switching components are most susceptible to EMP, but again, shielding, removing power, and opening the circuit somehow are fairly effective safeguards. An EMP doesn't really have much effect on components in an open circuit. It's possible for EMP to jump an open circuit like electricity sometimes arcs from one conductor to another, but I think that's still pretty much a theory. Anyway, your best bet against EMP is opening the circuits of electrical devices somehow before the EMP hits.
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Posted 23 September 2011 - 10:53 AM

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 05:00 PM

While individual components can be shielded, part of the problem with an EMP is the incredible amount of power will absolutely melt the power grid down. And everything attached to it Transformers, fuse boxes, etc. So you'll need to have generators, solar, batteries, or some other form of power that isn't dependent upon, or wired to, the "grid".
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Posted 24 September 2011 - 07:24 AM

View PostPistolWhipped, on 23 September 2011 - 08:00 PM, said:

While individual components can be shielded, part of the problem with an EMP is the incredible amount of power will absolutely melt the power grid down. And everything attached to it Transformers, fuse boxes, etc. So you'll need to have generators, solar, batteries, or some other form of power that isn't dependent upon, or wired to, the "grid".


Opening the circuit somehow is still the best protection. Turning things off may work (which is opening up at least the power supply portion of the circuit with a switch), but complete disconnection from power or opening the circuit is the most effective. Even major power grids can be protected in the same manner. Transformers are electrical step up or step down devices, not switches or relays, and not as susceptible to EMP as semiconductive components. The challenge with this action is knowing when the EMP is going to hit, and getting everything disconnected beforehand. As we have seen a few times in this decade, even a small part of a grid being disconnected or failing can cause an open circuit in the entire grid and knock out power in several states at once. The EMP itself will take some things out of the circuit by collapsing grid sections.
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