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what should the coaches limits be?

  1. he shouldnt be able to say anything (12 votes [41.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.38%

  2. telling a team member to tuck in an elbow (17 votes [58.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.62%

  3. telling team members where people are (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   time bomb 

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Posted 20 October 2006 - 08:05 AM

what do you think the coaches limits should be?


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Posted 20 October 2006 - 01:40 PM

Nothing. Like if he says a guy is crawling up the snake. Or snapshot now. That give a huge unfair advantage.

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Posted 20 October 2006 - 01:47 PM

I wouldn't have a problem with them telling there players to watch thier elbows, reload, and if other teammates are out or moving. The limit would be like 'Look left!' or 'Snap now!'...that would be pushing the line of just saying where the OpFor is.
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 05:42 PM

View PostPirate, on Oct 20 2006, 01:47 PM, said:

I wouldn't have a problem with them telling there players to watch thier elbows, reload, and if other teammates are out or moving.

The problem with that is the coach at any second could yell out a location or somting. And there isnt alot that can be done about that. So thats why I said no in general.

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Posted 21 October 2006 - 11:31 AM

I'm going to have to go with a resounding "no". A coach's job is to train and advise... all of which can be done during practice sessions and between matches, not during them. During a match he should remain silent and enforcedly so, under penalty of ejection from the game, or a huge point penalty for his team.
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Posted 21 October 2006 - 11:33 AM

Anything TIME CRITICAL should not be said by the coach. Things like "Move Now" or "Shoot Now"

But things that dont really matter when they are said are fine. Like "Take the Snake" or "move up"

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Posted 21 October 2006 - 11:41 AM

The coach should not be able to say anything, just because of the unfair advantage that there is. The coach should be actually COACHING off the field, or at team practices, not giving away positions or advising players what to do when it is game time. Overall, just unfair in my opinion.
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Posted 24 October 2006 - 11:39 AM

It would be fine if the coach tells there players to tuck in or move up. But as far as telling where the other team is at is wrong. It is hard enough to disappear on the speedball field.
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Posted 24 October 2006 - 11:48 AM

It really depends on the rules of the field & whether or not the coach is playing. I think coaches coaching during the game can be helpful if they know what they're doing, which they should if they're the coach. However, if you're going to get a point deduction or penalty for sideline talking then they need to keep their mouth shut.

One thing, coaches can't coach if players don't try to listen. By not listening the players won't use teamwork. That ultimately makes them a weaker team.
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Posted 25 October 2006 - 10:32 AM

Coaches shouldn't say anything at all.

Between games? Fine.
Off field? Sure.
During a match? Not at all.

It would be easy to come up with codes for his team so they'd know exactly where the OpFor is. Sure he's not actually yelling, "There's one behind that stump-thing" but he could yell, "Blue turkey 50", and it would mean the same thing.

So no, if he's not on-field playing with them, no.
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Posted 25 October 2006 - 03:59 PM

He's a coach therefore he coaches his team. He is not a spy, therefore he should not be allowed to tell of positions.
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Posted 26 October 2006 - 02:39 PM

I think they shopuld coach off the field and between games in a tourney. Walk the field with the team pre game & point out lanes and who's going where, basic planning. When its game time and the buzzer sounds they should not be allowed to assist at all.

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 11:11 PM

I don't think a coach should be allowed to say anything at all during a match. The only exclusion would be if the coach can see only what the players can see. But that would involve a helmet camera for every team member, radios, and the coach having a screen playing in real time for every player. But you and I both know that is next to impossible, so a flat out no on coaches talking is needed.
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Posted 15 November 2006 - 08:21 PM

Coaches yell stuff to their players in other sports, but there are certain limits. I myself get into a zone when I play any kind of sport so in speedball(since most of the time in the woods I turn my radio off when I get close to the OpFor) I just train in on certain sounds so coaching wouldnt do me a whole lot of good. My pointman/frontman is a lot like that too. Everyone else doesnt seem to get in that zone. In other words, I space so I'm a bit biased since I'm not effected by it.

Between plays and such during football the coach often had to yell and tell me to quit 'tip toeing' and hit the whole. Then once I got into open green they would tell me to run. I never heard them yell anything to me after the cadence had started. All fo last year I didnt even know the stadiums ahd a PA system and they announced tackles and such over them. Somtimes people on the other team would change teh cadence up in one way, but say somthing differt to change it up(Red 52, Red 52 Changes to Rose 52, Rose 52 or somthign similar). So it'd make it seem they were sayin one thing but in reality it was somthing completely different. Baseball coaches do it with wipeoffs and indicators and other things like that.


In paintball I can see people telling somone to watch their elbows and maybe even say 'keep and eye on all of the field' hinting the guy missed somone(since I'm sure thats the only time anyone would say that). However the same thing could happen in Paintball like it does in other sports, the coaches could be saying one thing and actaully meaning somthing else. Its more than likely going to happen since all of the petty tricks, cheats, and dirtyness of competetive play in the sport is traditionally accepted.

So in short, allow coaching and not 'remote control'.
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Posted 17 November 2006 - 11:59 AM

Personaly I don't think the ref should say anything during a tourney.

But for walk on teamless rabbles they should be able to say things that would help the player in other games.

Tuck in more, watch the balls in your hopper,

Small things like that make the players better. I don't think anyone will say that snapshot now is something a ref should yell.
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