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#16 User is offline   Florentine 

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 11:08 AM

alright, when i get home today, ill get a video. but its normal when i dry fire for the hammer to not for forward the whole way?
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 11:27 AM

The cocking rod, which is linked to the hammer, should not contact the backblock except during the cycle. So as you pull the trigger, there should be at least a half inch between cocking rod and backblock, until the backblock starts to move back. Check out Slinky's videos, they show accurately what it should look like.
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 01:39 PM

View Postflorentine, on Mar 11 2008, 08:55 AM, said:

View Postflyweightnate, on Mar 11 2008, 10:50 AM, said:

While HOLDING the trigger, the block should be there, or farther back. When the trigger is released, it should be flush to the back of the gun.

well it doesn't go to the back of the gun, it only travels half way. for it to get to the gun, i have to push it myself


This is normal for a cocker with no air.

See, what happens is the RAM is what pushes the back block backwards AND pulls it forward. Then the gun is ready to fire. You'll see and understand more when you get air.
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 02:28 PM

Haha wow, didn't catch the "no air" part. Good call, good call.
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 06:45 PM

ok, well i just ran some air through it. i learned the gun does not need to be cocked manually. then i squeezed the trigger and the gun cycled but very quietly. i heard some air leaking from the front right brass thing when looking at from the end of the barrel. theres a hole at the end that leaks air. is that normal? how should i fix that? will that make the gun fire properly? im confused right now
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 07:11 PM

Mean the 4-way? the little short brass thing with three barbs, right? Put some oil in it, and it might need rebuilt. Or you might be out of time. Check the timing sticky.
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 07:15 PM

View Postflyweightnate, on Mar 11 2008, 10:11 PM, said:

Mean the 4-way? the little short brass thing with three barbs, right? Put some oil in it, and it might need rebuilt. Or you might be out of time. Check the timing sticky.
Talk to a local pro-shop guy if that doesn't do it.

it has the 3 lines running out of it? then yeah. where should i put some oil into it? and how can it be rebuilt? and what should i tune it to? cause i tuned it, and i thought i tuned it right
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 07:23 PM

By very quietly I assume you mean it didn't fire and thats normal for the first cycle unless you manually pulled back the cocking rod before(I made that mistake before, scared the crap out of myself). The air leakage is also one of two things, it is a leak and should be closed, or it is just the 4-way releasing the air from the ram as it was moving the other way.

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 07:32 PM

View Posta_rabid_monkey, on Mar 11 2008, 10:23 PM, said:

By very quietly I assume you mean it didn't fire and thats normal for the first cycle unless you manually pulled back the cocking rod before(I made that mistake before, scared the crap out of myself). The air leakage is also one of two things, it is a leak and should be closed, or it is just the 4-way releasing the air from the ram as it was moving the other way.

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well it happens every time i squeeze the trigger. and if i hold it, the air continues to leak out of the hole
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 08:16 PM

how much air is leaking out? is it just air you feel when you pull the trigger and fire the gun?
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 08:26 PM

View PostMighty Mike, on Mar 11 2008, 11:16 PM, said:

how much air is leaking out? is it just air you feel when you pull the trigger and fire the gun?

well a little bit to where i can hear it when i pull the trigger. but once i let the trigger go, it stops
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 08:33 PM

in the front of the 3 way is a little hole where the rod comes out of the body, it sounds like the air is escaping through there and that shouldn't be a problem
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 08:41 PM

View PostMighty Mike, on Mar 11 2008, 11:33 PM, said:

in the front of the 3 way is a little hole where the rod comes out of the body, it sounds like the air is escaping through there and that shouldn't be a problem

its in the front of the 3 way. where the trigger bar thingy comes into it, its on the other side
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 08:45 PM

yeah it shouldn't be a problem
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 09:12 PM

Yeah if its just coming out of the 3 way thats normal operation, but a little grease never hurt. I'm pretty sure oil would just run out of it, mine is almost new and the rod going into the 3 way is covered with grease.

And you mentioned that is was cycling quietly, do you mean that it's not firing, or is just fires quietly. That could be another problem altogether.
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