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How should the paint fit?

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 08:46 PM

How should hte paintball fit in the barrel? Should it be able to roll through with little reistance? or should it have a snug fit that doesnt allow it to roll at all?
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Posted 08 December 2009 - 09:27 PM

View PostVillid, on Dec 8 2009, 09:46 PM, said:

How should hte paintball fit in the barrel? Should it be able to roll through with little reistance? or should it have a snug fit that doesnt allow it to roll at all?


I like to under bore when possible. I have a ball sizer and use that to determine what barrel/insert to use. For instance if average paint size is 689 I will use 687 etc.

There are many threads about this I'm sure....
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Posted 08 December 2009 - 09:55 PM

Alot of players say that the paint shouldn't just roll all the way through, that the ball should stop in the barrel but with a strong puff of breath it should fly right out. This works pretty well but be sure you have quiality paint that's nice and round. If you use high quality paint that's very round with no seam it's OK if it rolls all the way through if it just barely has room to do so. I used some Ultra Evil paint one time that did roll all the way through and that was the best day of paintball I've ever had. My cheap low end blowback was extremely accurate that day. I could hit anything. A foot, a barrel, an elbow, anything. It was great.
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Posted 09 December 2009 - 12:07 PM

hmm ok. im using a flatline, so a ball that rolls through seems to be working a little better.

does anyone have a working link to the barrel/paint bore sizes?
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Posted 09 December 2009 - 03:39 PM

View PostVillid, on Dec 9 2009, 12:07 PM, said:

hmm ok. im using a flatline, so a ball that rolls through seems to be working a little better.

does anyone have a working link to the barrel/paint bore sizes?


If you are talking about the chart that Tom Kaye made many years ago, you should know that it is way out of date and of no real use. Almost every paint we use today was not around when he made the chart. And those on the chart that are still around have had their size adjusted since then. Since you are using a flatline, the ball needs to spin in the barrel and underboring will not give good results.
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Posted 09 December 2009 - 04:10 PM

Welt Collector's right. Since you have a flatline you need the balls to easily roll through the barrel. That's how the flatline works. The ball rolls agiant the inside of the barrel.
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Posted 09 December 2009 - 07:40 PM

DVL i think you just contradicted him. If i read it right hes saying that hte balls should be snug, and not free roll down the barrel. Cause if they are free rolling, they are not getting their backspin. Which may be the explanation for my crap accuracy with the barrel right now. Hadnt considered that.

I did read that correctly right?
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Posted 09 December 2009 - 11:06 PM

View PostWeltCollector, on Dec 9 2009, 04:39 PM, said:

Since you are using a flatline, the ball needs to spin in the barrel and underboring will not give good results.

No, he's got it right. He said, "The ball needs to spin in the barrel". By spin he means, the ball needs to be able to roll against the inside of the barrel, which with a flatline is true. He also said ,"underboring will not give good results". Underboring is when you use paint that fits snug in the barrel. This doesn't work well with flatlines. So that's correct too.

When using a flatline try 10 to 15 balls and see if they will just roll through the barrel. This will give you a big enough sample test to see if your paint will work OK. The faltline can be a pain. I highly recommend the Apex over the flatline.
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Posted 10 December 2009 - 05:44 AM

+1 for the Apex over the Flatline......Way fewer problems with paint.
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Posted 10 December 2009 - 01:53 PM

View PostZugzwang, on Dec 10 2009, 07:44 AM, said:

+1 for the Apex over the Flatline......Way fewer problems with paint.


-1 for a post thats totally irrelevant to the question

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View PostWeltCollector, on Dec 9 2009, 04:39 PM, said:

Since you are using a flatline, the ball needs to spin in the barrel and underboring will not give good results.

No, he's got it right. He said, "The ball needs to spin in the barrel". By spin he means, the ball needs to be able to roll against the inside of the barrel, which with a flatline is true. He also said ,"underboring will not give good results". Underboring is when you use paint that fits snug in the barrel. This doesn't work well with flatlines. So that's correct too.

When using a flatline try 10 to 15 balls and see if they will just roll through the barrel. This will give you a big enough sample test to see if your paint will work OK. The faltline can be a pain. I highly recommend the Apex over the flatline.


right now theres a sizable space between the ball and the barrel. so the ball seems to be going through the barrel without making enough contact to put a backspin on it
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Posted 10 December 2009 - 09:36 PM

The shape of the barrel forces the ball against the inside of the barrel, and the inside of the barrel is textured so no matter how small the paint is, it should be rolling against the inside of the barrel. I'm not sure what could be causing your problem. Sorry I can't be of more assistance.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 01:07 PM

as i understand it, the top of the barrel is more textured to create the backspin. the shape of the barrel seems to to force the smaller ball against the botton of hte barrel so im not really gettign the backspin i dont think.
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